Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

mayonnaise

tracey3596 wrote: »

You don't think that statistically our GDP growth is steady then? :think:

You mean from being the G7 top performer to bottom of the table?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-latest-news-uk-economy-g7-bottom-mark-carney-bank-of-england-a8058036.html
It's 'steady' alright...reliably +0.3-0.4% each Q, about half the rate of the EU.

tracey3596 wrote: »

Now if the thread equivalents of Pinky and Perky will excuse me I have children to see to, which I think most would agree is more worthwhile compared to their continued yet fortunately often failed attempts at being keyboard warriors.

Definitely more worthwhile, tracey.

wunferall

I hate to tell you this but annual GDP growth this year will be, from all indicators, almost exactly the same as last year at 1.6%. It might be 1.5% or it might be 1.7% but it's not going to be very far off, so comparing the rate to elsewhere is irrelevant and tracey is quite correct when she says that our growth is steady.

gfplux

Thanks quittlings
https://infacts.org/paris-amsterdam-say-thanks-brexiters/
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"And indeed, vaarwel! A complicated Brussels bidding process has decided the London-based European Banking Authority (EBA) and European Medicines Agency (EMA) will be relocated to Paris and Amsterdam respectively. Almost 900 EMA staff and over 100 EBA staff, mostly high-skilled EU nationals, and their families will make the move across the Channel. It’s a hit for London’s scientific and financial prestige, as well as its economy. The agencies act as magnets to their industries. For example, EMA hosts an estimated 36,000 scientists and national regulators each year."
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cogito

gfplux wrote: »

Thanks quittlings
https://infacts.org/paris-amsterdam-say-thanks-brexiters/
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"And indeed, vaarwel! A complicated Brussels bidding process has decided the London-based European Banking Authority (EBA) and European Medicines Agency (EMA) will be relocated to Paris and Amsterdam respectively. Almost 900 EMA staff and over 100 EBA staff, mostly high-skilled EU nationals, and their families will make the move across the Channel. It’s a hit for London’s scientific and financial prestige, as well as its economy. The agencies act as magnets to their industries. For example, EMA hosts an estimated 36,000 scientists and national regulators each year."
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Leaving eastern Europe out in the cold yet again. What was it Juncker was saying recently about a union of 27 equal states but when you get right down to it, you can always guarantee the the French will win over Bucharest or Sofia.

Private_Church

ilovehouses wrote: »

The EU system does seem to make it far less likely that a deactivated weapon will be reactivated. I bet you know how to reactivate a weapon and would find it harder with the new EU system.

How many times do I have to say.. The UK deactivation standard means that weapons cannot ever be reactivated, there is no "less likely to be reactivated" because they are put beyond reactivation". The same can not be said of the Eastern European countries . The skorpion machine pistols I mentioned that were seized in Kent came from the Czech Republic . No one can reactivate a weapon which is UK certified and I wouldn't have a clue how to reactivate any firearm.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/dec/16/tougher-laws-reactivation-imitation-firearms-converted-guns-law-commission

Thanks for the link.. Did you read the article?. I did and it concerns "imitation" firearms and "antique" firearms and not deactivated firearms. To clarify an "antique" firearm is one that would usually be a black powder gun/pistol (Think Sean Bean and Sharp). These have be readily available and are seen as no threat due to the time it takes to load them,range, difficulty to conceal etc.

"Imitiation" firearms will be weapons that typically look exactly the same as a real firearm but the rifling in the barrel will not accept a real bullet and they are manufacture from lesser grade metals (not centrefire standard) and are designed to fire an .22 airgun pellet which is projected out of the barrel by air so no gunpowder etc . Back around 2004 the Govt re-classified these types of guns and made them a Section 1 firearms certified so anyone who owned one had 2 options ,either hand them in to the Police to be destroyed or apply for a Section 1 certifiate .

The problem the Home Office had was previous to re-classifying there a few instances where the naughty boys altered the barrels to accept a real bullet, the fact that if they fired them the gun was more likey to blow apart in their face than it was to kill/injure their intended victim.

On the basis of the "possible" threat the Home office pretty much outlawed these types of "immitation" guns. They were never real firearms nor deactivated weapons.

This is where the Guardian is confusing "imitation" with "deactivated" weapons.

The question I would ask you is : Do you think re-classifying legal weapons that anyone and his dog can currently own as a firearm and as such needs to be either surrendered to the Police for destruction or the owner needs to apply for a firearms certificte will result in the bad boys walking into the local Police station and hand their guns in?. Does this not just penalise the law abiding majority ?.


Below is a link which basically sums up my thoughts. I hope this clarifies the differences between the various classes.

http://www.airgunmagazine.co.uk/features/10-years-after/

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

Thanks quittlings
https://infacts.org/paris-amsterdam-say-thanks-brexiters/
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"And indeed, vaarwel! A complicated Brussels bidding process has decided the London-based European Banking Authority (EBA) and European Medicines Agency (EMA) will be relocated to Paris and Amsterdam respectively. Almost 900 EMA staff and over 100 EBA staff, mostly high-skilled EU nationals, and their families will make the move across the Channel. It’s a hit for London’s scientific and financial prestige, as well as its economy. The agencies act as magnets to their industries. For example, EMA hosts an estimated 36,000 scientists and national regulators each year."
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A wholly natural consequence of Brexit my Luxembourger friend, I genuinely feel sorry for the 75% of the EMA staff who are unhappy at leaving arguably the preeminent ‘World City’ that is London.
300,000 jobs created in the U.K. since the Brexit vote BTW.

Herzlos

Private_Church wrote: »

How many times do I have to say.. The UK deactivation standard means that weapons cannot ever be reactivated, there is no "less likely to be reactivated" because they are put beyond reactivation". The same can not be said of the Eastern European countries . The skorpion machine pistols I mentioned that were seized in Kent came from the Czech Republic . No one can reactivate a weapon which is UK certified and I wouldn't have a clue how to reactivate any firearm.

I could reactivate a uk firearm with the appropriate tooling, and I'm sure I could find plenty that have been done.

I couldn't do the same with an eu deactivated one ; I'd be as well starting from scratch.

The question I would ask you is : Do you think re-classifying legal weapons that anyone and his dog can currently own as a firearm and as such needs to be either surrendered to the Police for destruction or the owner needs to apply for a firearms certificte will result in the bad boys walking into the local Police station and hand their guns in?. Does this not just penalise the law abiding majority ?.


Below is a link which basically sums up my thoughts. I hope this clarifies the differences between the various classes.

http://www.airgunmagazine.co.uk/features/10-years-after/

The aim isn't to make bad boys hand weapons in. It's to make it possible to convict for possession since catching people in the act is a nightmare. It also removes potential weapons from the system so that they are harder to get hold of. It also ensures that the that have a genuine need to have them are safe and responsible with appropriate storage.

Air weapons became illegal up here without a license last year. I'd have loved to keep mine but it wasn't worth licensing so I handed it in. Same with a shotgun after the Dunblane shooting.

I kept the scope, case and pellets in case I want to get back into it.

Private_Church

Herzlos wrote: »

I could reactivate a uk firearm with the appropriate tooling, and I'm sure I could find plenty that have been done

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If the bolt assembly is ground back at 45 degrees which obliertates the firing pin etc ,barrel drilled with holes,barrel blocked up and welded it aint being reactivated.When the barrel has holes drilled in it you can't just weld over the holes because the cartridge pressures on firing would just blow all the gases out of the hole.

If what you said was true (which its not) it would mean there is currently thousands of deactivated weapons on the streets of the UK that can be reactivated but the EU spec only applies to either (A) firearms fresh to the market, ie sold off by national forces or (B) When an existing deactivated firearm is sold on..........So given these facts whats the point of the EU legislation, Millions of deacts out there ,all legally owned for all the bad boys to reactivate.............

Sorry but you're wrong.

It also removes potential weapons from the system so that they are harder to get hold of. It also ensures that the that have a genuine need to have them are safe and responsible with appropriate storage.

No it doesn't because there are millions out there which unless sold on won't be subject to the extra "engineering" work.

Air weapons became illegal up here without a license last year. I'd have loved to keep mine but it wasn't worth licensing so I handed it in. Same with a shotgun after the Dunblane shooting.

Thats because Scotland is run by numpty socialists and youghurt knitting tree huggers.

I would also point out that the Dublane massacre wasn't carried out with a shotgun ,it was carried out with revolvers and a Browning semi auto pistol which backs up my views that governments act without actually thinking about what they are doing.

I kept the scope, case and pellets in case I want to get back into it.

Thing is though in doing that you have let the Scottish mummy state win and licensing air guns is verging on pathetic.Its also true with crossbows which are as dangerous but theres no legislation restricting crossbows.

Herzlos

Barrel and firing pins can be easily recreated with appropriate metal and tooling. I also dare say you could drill it out if you were careful not to affect the bore. Not that I'd want to fire it.

I would regard Scottish socialism as being a numpty thing. It seems pretty sensible and decent to me. But them I'm a leftie

System

I hope you guys can still play war in your back garden post brexit