Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Arklight

tracey3596 wrote: »

Still with the derogatory name-calling to vast swathes of the UK population I see?

A question.
How long has China been in the EU?

If only we could be more like China. There if you criticise the government and look like you are unpatriotic they drag you out of your house in the middle of the night, incarcerate you with no legal representation in a gulag, and often shoot you in the back of the head if you are too much of a nuisance.

gfplux

tracey3596 wrote: »

Still with the derogatory name-calling to vast swathes of the UK population I see?

A question.
How long has China been in the EU?

Quitters seem to miss the point. More information for you here

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chinese-want-broughton-airbus-wings-13933650

gfplux

Honey_Badger wrote: »

I'm not sure this story holds water, as I understand it:

1) The concerns revolve around delays and paper work due customs clearance as aviation products are tariff free. As another poster said China isn't in the EU so that doesn't seem to make sense.

2) I cannot see that a much longer journey from China makes any sense at all, if you are concerned about delivery times. Especially given 3. below.

3) A380 wings produced at Broughton are too large for the "Beluga" transport aircraft. They are transported by road, river and sea to the A380 assembly plant.

Here is more information.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chinese-want-broughton-airbus-wings-13933650

I challeng 3) with https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Beluga
And raise you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Beluga
Delivery times are measured in hours not days.
The Beluga XL makes its maiden flight in 2018 and could enter service just as Britain leaves in 2019.

Who knows what can happen after Brexit. What we do know is Uncertainty and confusion can lead to changed decisions.
This is all part of the Brexit Blight of Uncertainty Britain finds itself in.

Rough_Justice

Isn't EU harmony a wonderful thing?
Talking of France as I was earlier, the EU's Four Freedoms are not appreciated by French hauliers it seems.

French truck drivers blocked traffic at border crossings with Spain, Italy and Belgium on Tuesday in protest over cut-price competition in the road-freight industry.

French truckers are angry that an agreement reached by EU member states on Oct. 23 to limit the amount of time workers can be “posted” from one EU country to another does not cover the road transport sector.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests-truckers/french-truckers-jam-border-crossings-over-cut-price-competition-idUSKBN1DL1GO

Tromking

ilovehouses wrote: »

The EMA's wage bill is around £50m and the EBA about £25m. They're not minor quangos as you put it - that's why there was an EU bunfight to host them.

It also needs to be remembered that at least some of the work of these agencies will now have to be replicated in the UK which won't be without cost. This will need to happen across all the mechanisms of the EU.

Wage bills that the U.K. will no longer need to part fund I’m assuming and the financial ‘loss’ of two such agencies will be offset by us having to do the job ourselves?
Small beer, to the worlds 5th/6th largest economy I would suggest.
Let Luxembourg be the home to umpteen EU quangos, the U.K. is setting a different path with Brexit.

Honey_Badger

gfplux wrote: »

I challeng 3) with https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Beluga
And https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Beluga
Delivery times are measured in hours not days

So this A380 wing is just on a river trip on the Dee just for the fun of it then?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UR_-_OkyLpE

westernpromise

On a general note I don't think I ever met a Remainer, or to be more precise anyone who identified as such, before the referendum. The hatred they express now for the winners comes as genuine surprise, as does the enthusiasm for the EU. In the last couple of decades I can't remember any conversation with anyone ever who wanted to tell me how great the EU was. There seemed to be only two attitudes, indifference towards the EU and dislike of the EU. Now suddenly they're everywhere.

I didn't actually vote because the quality of the debate was so achingly poor on both sides. The question I wanted Remain to be made to answer was "Remain in what exactly? The EEC?", but so far as I know it was never asked. Instead we got "Turkey's going to join the EU" from Leave. The question I wanted Leave to answer was "As you don't know what Leaving looks like how do you know it will be better?" but instead we got apocalyptic predictions of instant doom from Remain so patently over the top that they were laughable.

By polling day I felt like I was being invited to choose between voting for Pol Pot and voting for Stalin, i.e. pick one of these two identically very unpleasant liars, with the proviso that this vote will be the last one.

The Remain campaign and the EU themselves need to accept their share of the blame for this. Failure to communicate is not a failure by the listener. It's not the voters' fault that Remain lost.

westernpromise

Honey_Badger wrote: »

I'm not sure this story holds water, as I understand it:

1) The concerns revolve around delays and paper work due customs clearance as aviation products are tariff free. As another poster said China isn't in the EU so that doesn't seem to make sense.

2) I cannot see that a much longer journey from China makes any sense at all, if you are concerned about delivery times. Especially given 3. below.

3) A380 wings produced at Broughton are too large for the "Beluga" transport aircraft. They are transported by road, river and sea to the A380 assembly plant.

Presumably the thinking is that Britain gained an edge when in the EU which will soon go, so China's bid may prove to be more competitive than UK's.

China has many years of experience counterfeiting aircraft parts, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were able to fake Airbus wings quite well too. I still wouldn't fly in one.

cogito

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Also preferable to French police charging anti-Macron protesters as they march towards the Elysee Palace or tear-gassing those protesting at slavery in Libya.

Isn't it interesting how little coverage things like this get in the British media?

Herzlos

ilovehouses wrote: »

The EMA's wage bill is around £50m and the EBA about £25m. They're not minor quangos as you put it - that's why there was an EU bunfight to host them.

It also needs to be remembered that at least some of the work of these agencies will now have to be replicated in the UK which won't be without cost. This will need to happen across all the mechanisms of the EU.

It's more than the wage bill. The EBA with it's relatively small staff size had in the region of 40,000 business "tourists" a year. Assuming half of them stayed in a hotel, since they are coming from all over the EU that's 76 hotel stays and dinner reservations per working day. At £100 a night for accommodation and £50 a meal (both very cheap for London) that's another £3m sucked out of the economy and going to Amsterdam. And that's assuming they only do Bed & Breakfast with dinner, in a cheap hotel, without factoring in things like travel costs between the offices, hotel and airport. We don't know if they do any shopping or holidaying in whilst in the area.