Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

phillw

Eric_the_half_a_bee wrote: »

Two leading members of the Leave campaign which attracted 17.4m votes press May to implement those votes .... not shocking

What they're asking May to implement appears to be different to their sales pitch to voters.

Which isn't shocking either, they are UK politicians after all.

Herzlos

I thought he'd admitted as much?

phillw

I voted remain, but I so want everyone to get behind Tim Martins. I want to see the look on his face when he realises he doesn't understand economics.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/878677/Wetherspoons-Tim-Martins-Nigel-Farage-Juncker-no-deal-Brexit

Removing tariffs so that food imports are cheap will either require even more cuts to services or higher taxes. I wonder if he actually pays tax? The government is already going to lose VAT on EU exports with a no deal brexit.

Herzlos

We'll get proper duty free back with a no deal, won't we?

Honey_Badger

phillw wrote: »

Removing tariffs so that food imports are cheap will either require even more cuts to services or higher taxes.

EU food imports to the UK are already tariff free as we're presently part of the EU. Whilst after Brexit if we remove all tariffs for food, would it really have such a huge effect on tax take? I understand that only 23% of our food comes from outside the EU.

Don't import duties for imports into the EU go straight into the EU's coffers?

posh*spice

Eric_the_half_a_bee wrote: »

Two leading members of the Leave campaign which attracted 17.4m votes press May to implement those votes .... not shocking

2 members of the cabinet. It seems tohave passed Moby by that we don't have a presidential system.

gfplux

Moby wrote: »

...and what if parliament votes down the deal....what happens next. The momentum will grow to put it to the people imo.

What if the EU parliament votes down the deal. That's a big cliff to fall over.

gfplux

cogito wrote: »

We don't agree on many things but can agree on this one. Every fule no that the EU are not negotiating. I can't think of a single item where the EU have shown any flexibility whatsoever. Can you?

The other thing we can agree on is that we should settle our bill. How much to you think that should be? Whatever figure that the EU has plucked out of the air?

I think you have forgotten that it is Britain leaving the EU not the other way round. When that happens why would the EU show any flexibility. Britain has to do that and obviously has not shown enough flexibility yet. You may not like it but that's what the position the referendum and trigering article 50 too early has done for Britains negotiating position.

gfplux

Rinoa wrote: »

The divorce bill was only deamt up by Brussells after the referendum,when they realised the EU would fall apart without UK contributions.

It's not in the EU rule book. It has no legal standing. Neither 'project fear' nor ardent remainers such as youself ever referred to it before the referendum as an argument for staying in.

Now you think it perfectly reasonable to cough up £40/50/60Bn+ and be blackmailed without a fight, hoping they'll be kind and throw us a few scraps in the trade negotiations.

Well, some of us are made of sterner stuff.

Why would the financial settlement be an argument for staying in. If you have made commitments, which Britain has, then when Britain leaves you have to cover those commitments. The Government has problems with this as the Brexiters starting talking about a "divorce bill" misleading the British public into thinking there was no ongoing commitments that had to be settled.

gfplux

Eric_the_half_a_bee wrote: »

Really? Which Remainers mentioned a divorce bill before the referendum?

See, once again calling the financial settlement by the wrong name.