Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

gfplux

kabayiri wrote: »

It would be an opportunity, rarely seen, to show EU dominance over an errant state.

And you think they would pass it up?

What particular actions have Tusk and Juncker shown where they have demonstrated their affection for the UK?

I thought you were better than that. However I may have missed other posts like this one from you.

Once again blaming the EU for Britains PRESENT problem.

Or will you be blaming remainers
What about blaming the weather?

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

If Merkel topples. Then Macron is a very isolated figure.

Please, what do you know.

Brexiters have spent +40 years saying Germany and France call the shots.
Now you say that FRANCE on its own can not influence the EU.

Frankly that is a sad reflection of how insulated from what goes on in Europe let alone the rest of the world you Brexiters are.

Are you actually wanting to be called a Little Englander?

Oh, by the way that is NOT a compliment.

gfplux

Moby wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dominic-raab-brexit-eu-workers-rights-uk-talks-brexit-secretary-a8438706.html
Always thought he was a nasty piece of work.

By taking the job he has signed up to Mays silly weak false Brexit plan.
By next Monday this all could be water under the bridge and negotiations and Mays strange Government will continue to plow towards a false Brexit.
By then the EU will be able to say NO to the latest silly Brexit offer.

Frankly in many other negotiations about normal things the EU would have said very politely.....Pizz of

Enterprise_1701C

Arklight wrote: »

Corbyn enjoys the full support of Labour members and 13 million voters (all of whom the Right wing tell us are swivel eyed Trotskyists, hell bent on destroying freedom and nationalising The Sun).

Theresa May enjoys no such support. She doesn't have the support of her cabinet, when it comes to fox hunting, tax cuts for the wealthy, and gay marriage she is right on message with her voters, but she has no idea what they want when it comes to Brexit.

The grass roots are in open rebellion about the possibility of soft Brexit, which puts them at odds with her and the wider electorate, and she needs them to deliver all those leaflets.

The Tory Party is tearing itself apart, again, over it's own xenophobia, again.

That is a rather strange statement considering the massive vote of no confidence he utterly ignored only a couple of years ago. Mind you, he has since been replacing the ones that voted against him with momentum lackeys.

Moby

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

That is a rather strange statement considering the massive vote of no confidence he utterly ignored only a couple of years ago. Mind you, he has since been replacing the ones that voted against him with momentum lackeys.

It's called democracy. Party members now have a say in policy. Nothing wrong with that. The vote of confidence he ignored was from his MP's. Name me one MP he has replaced with a 'momentum lackey'?

LHW99

It's called democracy. Party members now have a say in policy. Nothing wrong with that.

But wrong and not democracy that the whole country had a chance to vote on Brexit and the majority of those who did vote chose to leave?

Filo25

Moby wrote: »

It's called democracy. Party members now have a say in policy. Nothing wrong with that. The vote of confidence he ignored was from his MP's. Name me one MP he has replaced with a 'momentum lackey'?

Well sometimes they do, until Momentum instructs its members not to vote for a debate on Brexit at Conference, because it might be a bit inconvenient for the leadership.

Corbyn certainly isn't in line with many Labour members I know on Brexit, and currently Labour policy on the single market contains almost as much ambiguous wording and wishful thinking as the Tories

Arklight

Filo25 wrote: »

Well sometimes they do, until Momentum instructs its members not to vote for a debate on Brexit at Conference, because it might be a bit inconvenient for the leadership.

Corbyn certainly isn't in line with many Labour members I know on Brexit, and currently Labour policy on the single market contains almost as much ambiguous wording and wishful thinking as the Tories

It's a Tory mess, and a Tory government trying to manage it, there's no reason for Labour to show their cards.

The Lib Dems have come out as anti Brexit and it didn't work as a strategy. Corbyn has always said that he'll respect the result of the referendum. The Tories will have to tear themselves to bits figuring out what the referendum was actually asking first.

Moby

LHW99 wrote: »

But wrong and not democracy that the whole country had a chance to vote on Brexit and the majority of those who did vote chose to leave?

Sorry....I thought I was in a discussion about Labour party democracy. In relation to how people voted on brexit....chose to leave what exactly....do you know what was in the mind of every brexiteer?

Filo25

Arklight wrote: »

It's a Tory mess, and a Tory government trying to manage it, there's no reason for Labour to show their cards.

The Lib Dems have come out as anti Brexit and it didn't work as a strategy. Corbyn has always said that he'll respect the result of the referendum. The Tories will have to tear themselves to bits figuring out what the referendum was actually asking first.

Corbyn's a lifelong Eurosceptic so not a huge issue for him to respect the result of the referendum!

I fully agree that it is primarily a Tory issue, but let's not make out Labour are much more united, they just have the luxury of hiding some of the disunity by just talking in vague terms in opposition.