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  • ams25
    ams25 Posts: 260 Forumite
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    Linton wrote: »
    My view:
    As always Asset Allocation is key. Whether a fund is active or passive is a minor factor. In the past year Linton Growth has suffered both from its high allocation to small companies and its relatively low allocation to US, and has underperformed VLS100. Whereas in each of the the previous 4 years it was ahead.


    Another general factor is that the active portfolios tend to be higher risk and so would be expected to perform worse than the index funds in periods of economic difficulty or uncertainty. However if we didnt believe that these conditions only apply for significantly less than 50% of the time we wouldnt be investing at all.

    Agree that asset allocation is the key determinant of performance. this is why, for this exercise, i tried to mirror the Vanguard LS 60 fund with a similarly allocated active mix of funds. that way we see more if active / passive is making a difference. so far it is, but not in the right direction. it could easily be the other way, but kind of underpins the argument that over the long term passive will probably do as well or better while in the short term you may over or under perform using active funds (and that's assuming you do research and avoid those without decent long term performance)
  • bostonerimus
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    ams25 wrote: »
    I tried to mirror the allocations of Vanguard's Life Strategy 60 as closely as I could with active funds (same % for US, Japan etc) , and within my fund selections i have big winners (fundsmith) and losers (Woodford) and a fair few in between... the resulting average performance has been below LS 60. Of course if Woodford have been replaced by Lindsell Train UK and a couple of other changes it would be the other way around. But as we don't have crystal balls....

    This is essentially why I'm an index investor. There will always be portfolios with better returns than mine and also some with worse returns...I don't have crystal balls...thank God, but I'm pretty certain I'm going to be in the middle of the pack.
    “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”
  • Thrugelmir
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    Don't Let Your Granny Loose at the Dogs

    £101,868

    Includes cash balance of £2,646

    No changes to the portfolio in the month.


    Prices as of today. Dull month. 5 stocks ending on exactly the same prices as they started. Lull before the storm......
  • Prism
    Prism Posts: 3,848 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Prices as of today. Dull month. 5 stocks ending on exactly the same prices as they started. Lull before the storm......

    Any particular storm in mind ;) ?
  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 1 March 2019 at 8:55PM
    Prism wrote: »
    Any particular storm in mind ;) ?

    A famous quote springs to mind........
    “Bull markets are born on pessimism, grow on scepticism,
    mature on optimism and die on euphoria.”
    Sir John Templeton

    Are markets holding up thanks to primarily retail investors chasing that elusive goal of yield........ Buying the top global equities. With 80% of trades (by value) in only 110 stocks . That's a very narrow investment range.
  • TBC15
    TBC15 Posts: 1,496 Forumite
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    For DiggerUK

    £103,313
  • DiggerUK
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    edited 2 March 2019 at 9:37AM
    Well, I decided to rebalance my portfolio.....from gold, to gold. After all that's the only option open to me.
    Nothing of geopolitical or geofinancial significance to offer an explaination for the recent price rises.

    The WGC report an uptick in gold demand of 4% in 2018. Here is their full year analysis.
    https://www.gold.org/goldhub/research/gold-demand-trends/gold-demand-trends-full-year-2018

    The LBMA fix has a March 1st 2018 to March 1st 2019 rise from £953 to £989, which as near as damn it is 4%. I usually find that the WGC report correlates price changes with demand changes. it recently peaked at *(£1300)..._
    *Ergghh, very wishful thinking, try £1030.
  • bostonerimus
    bostonerimus Posts: 5,617 Forumite
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    So here are some statistics

    Active portfolios' average= 6.1%, stdev=5.2%
    Passive portfolios' average = 4.8%, stdev = 2.3%
    “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”
  • A_T
    A_T Posts: 975 Forumite
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    DiggerUK wrote: »
    Well, I decided to rebalance my portfolio.....from gold, to gold. After all that's the only option open to me.
    Nothing of geopolitical or geofinancial significance to offer an explaination for the recent price rises.

    Chinese government has been buying gold.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    A_T wrote: »
    Chinese government has been buying gold.

    Central banks appear to have been buying to protect themselves from the dominance of the US dollar and it's fluctuations. Many are holding a huge amount of dollar denominated debt. Emerging economies are vunerable to the future increases in US interest rates.
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