PIP assessment tomorrow, how to prove am terrible with budgeting?

kingfisherblue

Teddysmum, can I thank you twice please? That's an excellent example.

My son hasn't been transferred to PIP yet, but is likely to score points for not being able to make simple or complex bidgeting decisions. He knows that coins are 1p, 2p, etc. He can make 10x1p, 5x2p, and 2x5p to equal 10p, but cannot mix any coins to make 10p. He can also put 2x10p to make 20p, but that's as far as it goes.

If he finds any money on the floor, he gets quite excited - once he found 2p and thought that he could buy a chicken Subway sandwich. As he was so excited, I took him to Subway, where he tried to pay with his 2p, and then held his hand out for change! He doesn't understand different values at all.

In addition, my son can reliably count to 29. He gets confused at 30, but if prompted, can count to 39 and then gets confused at 40 - you get the idea. He can add some simple sums by counting on a number line, but as soon as you add the pence sign, he becomes very confused and cannot add even the simplest of numbers such as 2p+2p. This confusion is very upsetting for him.

When he is called for the transfer to PIP, I'll be making sure that he is dressed properly and appropriately, as I do each day. Whether he will make eye contact is another matter. If he takes a liking to the assessor, he will shake their hand and say Hello (he has a speech impairment, but his version of the word). Otherwise, he will not look at the assessor even if I encourage him to.

My son does have physical disabilities as well, but his severe learning disability is the major aspect. I know of his classmates who have been awarded enhanced rates for PIP on both components without a face to face assessment, and with no obvious physical disabilities. Therefore the OP is wrong when she says that the government only award to those with physical disabilities.

Mind you, she's wrong about other things too, and is clearly not above exggerating things in an attempt to gain an award. It's quite shocking that people are prepared to do that, and if she thinks that anyone on this forum will support her, she'll find that she is mistaken - most of us have no objection to disability benefits being awarded to those who truthfully qualify, but few of us will support anyone who twists things in order to be awarded.

poppy12345

Kingfisher and teddysmum, thank you for those posts. That's also a perfect example of my daughter. She doesn't know the value of numbers or money although she knows that 10 is more than 2 and 5 is more than 1. When it comes to counting, if it's a single number she has to use her fingers. Double figures are a totally different story and she just doesn't have a clue. She doesn't go out alone at all but if she did and went into a shop she wouldn't be know how much money to give, nor would she know how much change to recieve if any. This is also a perfect example of a person who can not make budgeting decisions. This is just a small portion of the difficulties she has daily.

I never did have a DLA award for her because i've spent the last 13 years of her life fighting for people to believe me. I finally have the evidence to prove the difficulties she has and Tuesday morning i'll be sending her PIP form recorded (signed for) delivery.

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dee100 wrote: »

here is my self assessment = 14 points:
DAILY LIVING COMPONENT
You assessed yourself as scoring the following points for the daily living component of PIP:


1 b. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to either prepare or cook a simple meal. 2 points

7 b. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to speak or hear. 2 points

8 b. Needs to use an aid or appliance, other than spectacles or contact lenses, to be able to read or understand either basic or complex written information. 2 points.

9 c. Needs social support to be able to engage with other people. 4 points

10 c. Needs prompting or assistance to be able to make simple budgeting decisions. 4 points


Total points: 14

To be eligible for the daily living component of PIP you need to score:
8-11 points to be awarded the standard rate; or
12 points or more to be awarded the higher rate.

You assessed yourself as being eligible for the ENHANCED RATE of the daily living component of PIP

MOBILITY COMPONENT.
You assessed yourself as scoring the following points for the mobility component of PIP:

Total points: 0

To be eligible for the mobility component of PIP you need to score:
8-11 points to be awarded the standard rate; or
or 12 points or more to be awarded the higher rate.

You assessed yourself as being eligible for NO AWARD of the mobility component of PIP.

After taking the time to read the full thread, I would expect an award of 2 to 4 points is the most likely outcome:

2 points for "Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to speak or hear", assuming you're using a prescribed hearing aid.
Possibly 2 points for "Needs prompting to be able to engage with other people".

I am near certain, if what you've written is true, that you wouldn't reach 8 points even if going to tribunal as you simply don't fit the criteria.

kingfisherblue

Good luck Poppy - hopefully your daughter will be awarded.

My son wouldn't know how much change in a shop, he just knows that I hand money to the assistant and sometimes I get some back. Amounts are beyond his level of understanding.

poppy12345

kingfisherblue wrote: »

Good luck Poppy - hopefully your daughter will be awarded.

My son wouldn't know how much change in a shop, he just knows that I hand money to the assistant and sometimes I get some back. Amounts are beyond his level of understanding.

Thank you! Yes that's exactly the same as my daughter. Good luck to you too when the time comes.

Thomas_The_Tank_Top

kingfisherblue wrote: »

Good luck Poppy - hopefully your daughter will be awarded.

My son wouldn't know how much change in a shop, he just knows that I hand money to the assistant and sometimes I get some back. Amounts are beyond his level of understanding.

So what is stopping him using a debit card? They even come with contactless - no money to count, or receive.

poppy12345

Thomas_The_Tank_Top wrote: »

So what is stopping him using a debit card? They even come with contactless - no money to count, or receive.

You really expect a person that can't even count money to know how much they have in their bank account? :eek: Or what it even means for that5 matter! I know my daughter wouldn't know!

bspm

IAmWales wrote: »

A blunt knife is more dangerous than a sharp knife. But I'm sure you've got evidence of these severe cuts to show the assessor ...

You don't need "wording", you need to be honest. It is coming over that you are trying to contrive your case in order to meet the descriptors. I don't doubt that you have difficulties but egging things up in order to get an award is not on, and is no better than an assessor (allegedly) trying to find ways to refuse you an award.

But let's be honest here, the poster is getting the correct wording aren't they?

My friends husband recently, two weeks running, withdrew £200 from a cash machine and walked away and left it, no disability just pure forgetfulness,maybe the poster hasn't explained fully, benefit of the doubt and all that but who knows.

I have not replied on this post from the beginning because it appeared to me that they were contriving to get an award, then along come other posters who actually tell them how to get it using correct wording

This is what is so wrong with this board now, my opinion only.

Have a nice day everyone!

FBaby

Very humbling posts from Teddy and King Fisher. Hope OP feels the same.

w06

just to lighten the mood a little, I tutor sometimes and have for a long time helped a now twenty something chap who remembers with a chuckle how he used to have to ask to borrow my hands if he needed to add numbers that went above ten