What is classified as "emergency" situation for LL/LA to enter?

Guest101

lisyloo wrote: »

[/COLOR][/COLOR]


I bed to differ. - Ok, beg away, it's still not the case.
I've had the noise team round to my flat 3 times now (London area). - yes, if you call they will come out, especially if you make a fuss. They will also say all sorts to placate repeat complainers
Each time they've had to hear the noise from a habitable room which is our flat would be lounge or kitchen. - that is not the criteria, as I keep telling you. Hearing noise and it being a nuisance are two very different things. It must be a certain volume and after certain hours and after a warning to turn it off before any further action is taken.


[/COLOR]


It's a public service I'm entitled to use.- use, not abuse. Why should I have disturbed sleep - in your lounge or kitchen? whilst alarms go off for weeks on end. Send your comments to your MP if you do not agree to the current system, but people deserve protection from noises. - I don't need to, just because someone from your council team decided to just agree with you instead of explaining the actual law, doesn't make you right.


[/COLOR][/COLOR]


I can put a note through the door of course, but I don't have access to the tenants mobile phone numbers or the landlords details. - Why would you need either of those? Presumably they live there and would see the note?
If I asked the housing authority for the persons phone number then they would not give it to me because those details are private. - and they wouldn't have it?
So no I am not capable of phoning people whose contact details I'm not permitted to have. - I didn't say phone them?


[/COLOR][/COLOR]


Of course I would have sorted it if there was anyone there !!!
don't be silly. - So no-one actually lives there?





They cannot just bang the door down and leave it open. - In an emergency? that's exactly what the police or fire services - here's a hint in the name - the EMERGENCY services would do
They'd then be liable. - not necessarily
They need to make good even if it's temporary. - make secure, not good
They don't get a hammer and break the door down, they will get a locksmith and try to break in with limited damage. - who will? because you clearly haven't got a clue, no offence





Please tell - why rubbish? - because these things happen, it's life. if you don't like it, don't live in a block of flats


OP - this has all happened and you could be liable.
If you want to change the locks make sure you leave a contact number and someone locally that you trust with a key.
The system works quite quickly e.g. noise abatement notice gives 24 hours, before they go to a JP for a warrant.

I'm sorry you've had issues in your flat, but honestly this is not how the system works.


Might want to read this: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/noise-nuisances-how-councils-deal-with-complaints

lisyloo

fairy_lights wrote: »

If you couldn't contact the landlord to ask them to access the property anyway then whether or not the tenants had changed the locks isn't really relevant anyway.

Not in this case.
In my case citywest homes
https://www.cwh.org.uk/
does NOT have access to tenants properties.


They have sent a note round asking for contact numbers (no doubt as a result of the noise cases as THEY didn't want to be left liable with the costs).

Red-Squirrel_2

Get one of these framed and send it round to the LA gift wrapped:

aneary

lisyloo wrote: »

Sorry not what I was suggesting.
I meant leave the contact number with the landlord not on the front door :-)

And how would my neighbour know my LL's details.

What you are suggesting makes no sense, I have no idea why the council would even be entertaining you.

lisyloo

Guest101 wrote: »

I'm sorry you've had issues in your flat, but honestly this is not how the system works.


Might want to read this: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/noise-nuisances-how-councils-deal-with-complaints

I've been through it 3 times and I can tell you this is how it works in Westminster.

Guest101

lisyloo wrote: »

You're wrong.
I've had 2 noise abatement notices issued by Westminster and them preparing to get warrants.

Just read the link before you start off on 24 hours until they break into your property nonsense.


I just feel sorry for your neighbours!

Guest101

lisyloo wrote: »

I've been through it 3 times and I can tell you this is how it works in Westminster.

Westminster isn't governed by the laws of England and wales then...

Guest101

aneary wrote: »

And how would my neighbour know my LL's details.

What you are suggesting makes no sense, I have no idea why the council would even be entertaining you.

Less head ache than ignoring I suspect

lisyloo

I have no idea why the council would even be entertaining you.

There are protections against noise. Look up statutory nuisance.


Amazed that people are telling me this didn't happen when it happened 3 times.


OP - do yourself a favour and check it out independently.
They CAN break into properties if your batteries go flat whilst your away and make you liable.

lisyloo

And how would my neighbour know my LL's details.

The information is publicly available from the land registry.