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What is classified as "emergency" situation for LL/LA to enter?
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I've had 3 incidents where smoke alarm back up batteries have gone flat causing a beeping noise every 40 secs in adjoining properties.Change the lock today and it wont happen in the future.
In 2 of the 3 cases this was deemed to be a statutory nuisance as it's audible from a habitable room in my home.
I those 2 cases I got the council noise team round.
They will attempt to contact the tenant, leave a note etc. but if the tenant doesn't respond then they'd get a warrant from a JP (justice of the peace) who work all hours, to break the door down.
Both times when this was threatened in my case, access was sorted.
Just be aware that if you prevent access and it is needed then you might get charged for an emergency locksmith and emergency locksmith which won't be cheap.
Oh and make sure not of your electrics/electronics go flat whilst your on holiday.
Personally I think you should see this access without you having to take time off as benefit, however you should complain about the dirt and excessive use of your consumables.
and in answer to your first question - they can break in if you leave noises (battery gone flat) that bother other people and are a "statutory nuisance".
So a noise is enough.
I don't personally consider it a life and death emergency, but it's extremely annoying so I'm glad that protection is there.0 -
I've had 3 incidents where smoke alarm back up batteries have gone flat causing a beeping noise every 40 secs in adjoining properties. - yes it's quite annoying.
In 2 of the 3 cases this was deemed to be a statutory nuisance as it's audible from a habitable room in my home. - rubbish. that is not the criteria
I those 2 cases I got the council noise team round. - what a waste of money
They will attempt to contact the tenant, leave a note etc. - are you not capable of knocking on the door? but if the tenant doesn't respond then they'd get a warrant from a JP (justice of the peace) who work all hours, to break the door down. - I doubt that
Both times when this was threatened in my case, access was sorted. - what instead of just being friendly and asking them to change the battery?
Just be aware that if you prevent access and it is needed then you might get charged for an emergency locksmith and emergency locksmith which won't be cheap. - why would you need a locksmith in an emergency?
Oh and make sure not of your electrics/electronics go flat whilst your on holiday. - ye what rubbish
Personally I think you should see this access without you having to take time off as benefit, however you should complain about the dirt and excessive use of your consumables.
what kind of emergency call can wait for a landlord or letting agent to turn up?0 -
The "but landlords need access in case of emergency!" thing has never made sense to me, because in what emergency scenario would a landlord be called ahead of the emergency services?
Why would the neighbours of the property/whoever spots the emergency even have contact details of the landlord to hand?0 -
It's that old landlord's favourite: "I went round your honour to drop off some instruction manuals, smelt gas** & decided I had to let myself in, emergency innitt....." (No, never used it..)
** - it was probably the landlord's trump he smelt....0 -
I bed to differ.In 2 of the 3 cases this was deemed to be a statutory nuisance as it's audible from a habitable room in my home. - rubbish. that is not the criteria
I've had the noise team round to my flat 3 times now (London area).
Each time they've had to hear the noise from a habitable room which is our flat would be lounge or kitchen.
It's a public service I'm entitled to use. Why should I have disturbed sleep whilst alarms go off for weeks on end. Send your comments to your MP if you do not agree to the current system, but people deserve protection from noises.I those 2 cases I got the council noise team round. - what a waste of money
I can put a note through the door of course, but I don't have access to the tenants mobile phone numbers or the landlords details.They will attempt to contact the tenant, leave a note etc. - are you not capable
If I asked the housing authority for the persons phone number then they would not give it to me because those details are private.
So no I am not capable of phoning people whose contact details I'm not permitted to have.
Of course I would have sorted it if there was anyone there !!!Both times when this was threatened in my case, access was sorted. - what instead of just being friendly and asking them to change the battery?
don't be silly.
why would you need a locksmith in an emergency?
They cannot just bang the door down and leave it open.
They'd then be liable.
They need to make good even if it's temporary.
They don't get a hammer and break the door down, they will get a locksmith and try to break in with limited damage.
Please tell - why rubbish?Oh and make sure not of your electrics/electronics go flat whilst your on holiday. - ye what rubbish
OP - this has all happened and you could be liable.
If you want to change the locks make sure you leave a contact number and someone locally that you trust with a key.
The system works quite quickly e.g. noise abatement notice gives 24 hours, before they go to a JP for a warrant.
If you're sceptical then look up statutory nuisance and noise abatement notice etc.0 -
and in answer to your first question - they can break in if you leave noises (battery gone flat) that bother other people and are a "statutory nuisance". - ye that wont be happening
So a noise is enough.
I don't personally consider it a life and death emergency, but it's extremely annoying so I'm glad that protection is there.
You're wrong.0 -
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If you want to change the locks make sure you leave a contact number and someone locally that you trust with a key.
The system works quite quickly e.g. noise abatement notice gives 24 hours, before they go to a JP for a warrant.
Who actually does this!!!
Tenant or home owner. Lets just leave my phone number on the door so that any passing idiot can call me. Seriously!!!0 -
If you couldn't contact the landlord to ask them to access the property anyway then whether or not the tenants had changed the locks isn't really relevant anyway.I can put a note through the door of course, but I don't have access to the tenants mobile phone numbers or the landlords details.0 -
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