Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Herzlos

badmemory wrote: »

I keep reading this about the old voting to exit. But that is not my experience. Every over 60 I have spoken to voted remain, it is the 40s & 50s who voted leave. The main reason given was to protect their children's future. I suspect it is just another ploy to blame the over 60s for everything.

Every bit of research (which with any polling can only be so accurate) highlights that the only group to vote a majority Brexit was the over 65's, who also happen to be the largest voting group. I'm not sure why we're still debating this.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

Every bit of research (which with any polling can only be so accurate) highlights that the only group to vote a majority Brexit was the over 65's, who also happen to be the largest voting group. I'm not sure why we're still debating this.

Correspondingly expats in the same age category voted to remain.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Every bit of research (which with any polling can only be so accurate) highlights that the only group to vote a majority Brexit was the over 65's, who also happen to be the largest voting group. I'm not sure why we're still debating this.

What do you mean largest voting group do you mean people who actually voted or people who could vote. Apart from a few years there a fewer people in every age group over 65 than below.

phillw

sann420 wrote: »

I think at some point the Tories will declare another referendum on the "final" deal with the EU.

I doubt it. The voters proved they can't be trusted with making informed grown up decisions.
Theresa is getting ready for a power grab.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Suggesting that people are stupid is offensive.

Stupid people not accepting that they are stupid is offensive.

Marktheshark

ukcarper wrote: »

That's ok the old brexiters will be dead by then so won't care, if the young pro EU supporters got up off their bums and voted in the last referendum we wouldn't be where we are now.

The Old Brexiteers, were once as young, foolish and stupid as the "young voters"
What changed them was a thing called life.
They grew older, had to grow up, realised that there is no such thing as a free life, you have to work, promises of politicians turn to lies that wash and drench you down until you realise they are actually peeing down your back and laughing at you.
The young, grow old, they grow up, they become wise, they begin to see things for what they really are.

So yes the old may die, but the young will soon be the old and they will soon wake up and grow up and see this common purpose meritocracy EU for what it is.
A big club that you are not in.

Then they become the new old "brexiteers".
, George Orwell summed it up perfectly
Every generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it. George Orwell

phillw

Marktheshark wrote: »

So yes the old may die, but the young will soon be the old and they will soon wake up and grow up and see this common purpose meritocracy EU for what it is.
A big club that you are not in.

Yeah a big club that has benefited the UK and now we're being dragged out of on the whim of slightly more than half the country who nobody realised were xenophobic.

AFF8879 wrote: »

a peaceful trading/security partnership between allied sovereign states and our friends and neighbours.

That is what it is. The EU is pretty wonderful, it's a shame we're not going to be in it but we have always dragged it down.

Marktheshark

phillw wrote: »

Yeah a big club that has benefited the UK and now we're being dragged out of on the whim of slightly more than half the country who nobody realised were xenophobic.



That is what it is.

Like a leach benefits your leg.

phillw

Marktheshark wrote: »

Like a leach benefits your leg.

The EU being the leg and we're the leech?

You will regret leaving when you realise what you had and what you lost. Unless you're a terrible xenophobe (most xenophobes don't realise that they are).

Japanese car manufacturers only built in the UK because we were in the EU. After the vote they wanted guarantees that there would be no tariffs or changes to free movement, they appear to have gotten them. I doubt they'll stay much past brexit.

It's looking like we'll return to the old days when we went to countries to try to convince anyone we could find to come here.

Marktheshark

phillw wrote: »

The EU being the leg and we're the leech?

You will regret leaving when you realise what you had and what you lost. Unless you're a terrible xenophobe (most xenophobes don't realise that they are).

At least we get to choose the leg.

Matt_L

phillw wrote: »

The EU being the leg and we're the leech?

You will regret leaving when you realise what you had and what you lost. Unless you're a terrible xenophobe (most xenophobes don't realise that they are).

You sound like an angry little bitter and twisted person..