Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Thrugelmir

lisyloo wrote: »

Do you think they would change their minds now?

MP's are simply people. Just like anybody else. They are good, bad and indifferent at their job. Many with a limited experience of life. As politics has become a career not a vocation once something has been ascertained.

BobQ

mrginge wrote: »

Having control of the armed forces means you can decide in the extreme to invade another country.

Having control of the taxation system means you can decide in the extreme to put income tax up to 80%

Now presumably you are not too concerned about extreme outcomes such as the above, despite the fact that the electorate seem quite happy to let the uk govt have this control. So why get in a flap about immigration being managed by the same people?

You are correct I do not. The only thing that would bother me is the EU stopping me living there or the UK stopping me leaving.

System

Thrugelmir wrote: »

One then is left to wonder what value the bureaucracy in Brussels actually adds. If your scenario is indeed true.

Things like uniform product standards across the EU? Stuff like that.

The world bank has a bureaucracy index to measure the ease of doing business where a lower number is better. The UK scores 7, Italy 50 and Greece 61 - it's not the EU's fault if Italy and Greece like to make life difficult for themselves.

To put that into context. When we leave the EU and we 'start' buying produce from Africa it's going to be an uphill struggle because a country like Spain scores 32 (around the EU average) and Africa around 140 or so.

Further away, lower standards and difficult to do business with. Good luck with that idea.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

Things like uniform product standards across the EU? Stuff like that.

Trouble is the rules get flouted. Health and safety being a good example. Easy to sit in an ivory tower in Brussels and go green on hoovers for example. Jobs for the boys one might say.

System

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Trouble is the rules get flouted. Health and safety being a good example. Easy to sit in an ivory tower in Brussels and go green on hoovers for example. Jobs for the boys one might say.

Just a list of soundbites. May as well add bendy bananas.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

Just a list of soundbites. May as well add bendy bananas.

No different to Westminster saying the motorway speed limit is 70 mph. How many people ignore the legal limit every day.

Rusty_Shackleton

ilovehouses wrote: »

Just a list of soundbites. May as well add bendy bananas.

Its as if brexiters think the flaws of the EU dont apply to any other government. There are rules flouted in the EU, but British rules would be followed to the letter, enforced by the ever competent HMG.

System

Thrugelmir wrote: »

No different to Westminster saying the motorway speed limit is 70 mph. How many people ignore the legal limit every day.

So you're not in favour of product standards here or across the EU because some people flout the rules? No of course not - your analogies are silly.

Conrad

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Its as if brexiters think the flaws of the EU dont apply to any other government. There are rules flouted in the EU, but British rules would be followed to the letter, enforced by the ever competent HMG.

The point is it's damned annoying and unjust that we follow EU rules to the letter, often gilt edging them, whilst the French deport Roma communities enmass without so much as flicker breaking every rule in the book, or Italy gets around ship procurement contract tendering rules by strapping a catapult to the front of a fishing boat. We're so often at a disadvantage adhering to EU rules to the letter.


Lets make our own rules and be accountable to ourselves and know exactly who's to blame and which political party to sack when the policies are poor.


Lets make our own ships and create good jobs. Having own tailored rules has so many advantages.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

So you're not in favour of product standards here or across the EU because some people flout the rules? No of course not - your analogies are silly.

The EC legislates on far more than just product standards. Didn't stop the German car manufacturers either......