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Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

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  • ukcarper
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    Good grief - why do people assume we're so utterly incompetent that Brits are incapable of building immensely simple things like roads, paths and reservoirs?

    We are our own worst enemy in this regard - NIMBY's and an antiquated and unfit for purpose planning system are the only things holding us back.
    Just show me one place close to London where you can build a large reservoir.
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Just show me one place close to London where you can build a large reservoir.

    It doesn't need to be near London.

    There have been plans for a reservoir to feed London for over a decade in Abingdon. You'll find a Brigadier someone is the NIMBY in charge of preventing it.
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  • ukcarper
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    It doesn't need to be near London.

    There have been plans for a reservoir to feed London for over a decade in Abingdon. You'll find a Brigadier someone is the NIMBY in charge of preventing it.
    The Thames is over extracted as it us so a reservoir there will not be much use.
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    The Thames is over extracted as it us so a reservoir there will not be much use.

    Thames Water shareholders are allegedly ponying up £1bn for the project. I assume they've looked into it and think they'll be able to fill it.

    If your research is better than theirs why not consider shorting their shares if it gets the go ahead?
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  • ukcarper
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    Thames Water shareholders are allegedly ponying up £1bn for the project. I assume they've looked into it and think they'll be able to fill it.

    If your research is better than theirs why not consider shorting their shares if it gets the go ahead?
    Sure they will be able to fill it but it will effect the river downstream but Thames Water do not really care about the state of the river.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    edited 13 September 2017 at 10:13PM
    ukcarper wrote: »
    Sure they will be able to fill it

    Oh right.

    So there is a site for a reservoir.

    Good to know.

    Besides, as the Romans could build 100 mile long aqueducts 2000 years ago, I'm quite sure in this age of pipelines and desalination plants we could readily find a solution without too much trouble.

    There's plenty of water within 100 miles of London - perhaps we'd just need to build a time machine so some primitive engineers from 2000 years ago could show us how to get it... Nah... We should be able to find at least a handful of engineers today with the gumption to do something so simple.
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  • ukcarper
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    edited 13 September 2017 at 10:18PM
    Oh right.

    So there is a site for a reservoir.

    Good to know.

    Besides, as the Romans could build 100 mile long aqueducts 2000 years ago, I'm quite sure in this age of pipelines and desalination plants we could readily find a solution without too much trouble.

    There's plenty of water within 100 miles of London - perhaps we'd just need to build a time machine so some primitive engineers from 2000 years ago could show us how to get it... Nah... We should be able to find at least a handful of engineers today with the gumption to do something so simple.
    There has been talk of transferring water from the northwest to London but it's just talk, with enough money almost anything can be done but is it cost effective.
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Sure they will be able to fill it but it will effect the river downstream but Thames Water do not really care about the state of the river.

    There's no such thing as a reservoir that doesn't affect the downstream flow. Every single reservoir in the country changes the environment around it.

    What are you looking for? The first magical hole in the ground that fills Londoner's glasses with potable water but impacts nothing else? It doesn't exist and never has.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    edited 13 September 2017 at 10:24PM
    ukcarper wrote: »
    There has been talk of transferring water from the northwest to London but it's just talk, with enough money almost anything can be done but is it cost effective.

    United Utilities already proposed a plan to install a water pipeline down the route of HS2 that would cure the SE shortfall- cost is a mere £2bn - a fraction of the cost of London's Crossrail.

    Or just under a single years worth of the surplus EU migrants pay into the UK treasury each and every year.
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  • ukcarper
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    There's no such thing as a reservoir that doesn't affect the downstream flow. Every single reservoir in the country changes the environment around it.

    What are you looking for? The first magical hole in the ground that fills Londoner's glasses with potable water but impacts nothing else? It doesn't exist and never has.
    No we need to reduce demand in the south east there is a limit to how much water you can extract of the the rivers in the south east. Mind you the lower river is tidal so they could try desalination plants.
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