Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Boredatwrork

Moby wrote: »

Think of it this way...we had a good position compared to those countries you list but have embarked on a masochistic journey of self damage that was completely unnecessary which will diminish our status and influence....but you carry on complacently chuckling away.

Of course it will affect our influence....we are voting out of the gang.

What was our influence anyway? 1 vote in 28 where Romania had as much of a say in our laws as we did?
If you are a young person living in Greece in a wrecked economy, you cant even vote against people like Merkel who effectively dictate how your government have to act, how your banks can operate, and encourage millions of immigrants to turn up at your shores and expect you (an already bankrupt country) to deal with them. Does that feel very "inclusive" to you? Where is her embarrassment as she plows on inviting millions across the seas (causing the deaths of hundreds), until her quota has been filled then the drawbridge comes up leaving thousands or homeless people wandering the EU countryside and a huge rift in the EU as someone elses problem. Where's her shame?

Moby

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Would you like a list of the questions posed to pro-EU, pro-remain posters in these threads that have gone unanswered?
There are many.
Judging by those you will be waiting a long time.
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Look at the first post bin this new thread if you will:

Now note please the vehement unfounded attempts at promulgating the very same "slanging match" in other threads by continual untruths in post after post, hoping no-one calls out their lies. In "Inflation"; in "Corbynomics"; in "JRM"; and yes, even in this thread.
At the risk of appearing uncompromising I for one will not allow the lies to go unchallenged.
To those more patient and forgiving than myself I apologise for so often being the lone voice and responding to what amounts to propaganda.
To those spreading the propaganda I say: "you will not go unchallenged".

Jock you are in denial mate. Every dog on the street knows brexit is huge mess for which we will pay big time. The evidence comes out day after day after day. Those with least will suffer the most. The EU is recovering, it is not falling apart and we will miss out on the future opportunities provided by co-operation and free movement. To think otherwise is shockingly naive.

setmefree2

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Answer the question where exactly in the SE are you putting four Newcastles every 3 years?

Don't worry we all know you won't answer - because you Remoaners don't have an answer to that question.

A very childish response tbh. I'm embarrassed for you.

cogito

Moby wrote: »

Jock you are in denial mate. Every dog on the street knows brexit is huge mess for which we will pay big time. The evidence comes out day after day after day. Those with least will suffer the most. The EU is recovering, it is not falling apart and we will miss out on the future opportunities provided by co-operation and free movement. To think otherwise is shockingly naive.

The problem with the Remain camp is that it sucks up every word that comes out of the EU as the holy writ and so that the EU must be a huge success because Juncker and Barmier say so. Therefore, Davis is unrealistic and deluded because that is what they say . What they actually mean is that Davis is being unrealistic because the UK hasn't simply rolled over and given in to their demands and they are not used to that.

It surprises me that anyone c an seriously think that things are going well in the EU when there is plenty of evidence that it is not. To think otherwise is shockingly naive.

setmefree2

cogito wrote: »

The problem with the Remain camp is

.... that they have no answers...to the difficult question of housing and mass migration

...which is why they/we lost...

...and is why remain will lose a second referendum...

They are reduced to this.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

How pathetic?

posh*spice

I know, I know.

Pathetic.

Conrad

Boredatwrork wrote: »

That always makes me chuckle, "Our reputation is in shatters"...Who exactly are we compared to the absolute shambles of Italian MP's? The bankrupt economy of Spain, Portugal, Greece? The elite in Romania? Who exactly is it we are an embarrassment too? The Austrians that almost voted in a far right leader? The Hungarians who have built a barbed wire fence around their country to keep immigrants out?..the list goes on.

Wonderful. You put it so much better than I could have. Keep visiting us here.

Conrad

cogito wrote: »

The problem with the Remain camp is that it sucks up every word that comes out of the EU as the holy writ and so that the EU must be a huge success because Juncker and Barmier say so. Therefore, Davis is unrealistic and deluded because that is what they say . What they actually mean is that Davis is being unrealistic because the UK hasn't simply rolled over and given in to their demands and they are not used to that.

It surprises me that anyone c an seriously think that things are going well in the EU when there is plenty of evidence that it is not. To think otherwise is shockingly naive.

On Twitter, thier answer to every challenge is to give up and roll over, concluding it's just all too difficult. It's the lack of vision and grit that kills me.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

How is Brexit going?

No as bad as some would have you believe; quite well so far in fact.
:T

.... tourism to Britain had risen by seven per cent since the referendum, according to the Office of National Statistics. The British Retail Consortium is also reporting a jump in sales of 2.4 per cent since last August.
Both the FTSE 100 and FTSE 250 are higher since the vote to Leave and Brexit has made Britain more competitive in manufacturing since last year. London has also maintained its position as the world’s number one global financial centre by extending its lead over New York, Hong Kong and Singapore

“Folks there is plenty of good, positive news out there but as I say you will not get it from the BBC.”

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/doom-mongering-nigel-farage-positive-brexit-news/

Private_Church

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

You will now post a nice piccy of a satelite view of the UK and say how we only develop a very small area of land and could easily put up with 100,000 + people moving to the South East every year..

What you fail to address time after time is the fact that no government actually plans and builds the infrastructure needed to accomodate these extra people. So what you propose is sticking 100,000+ people each year in high rise blocks,all living like battery hens.

Now unlike you I can give personal experience of living in the South East, trying to navigate on a daily basis around all the extra traffic we now have and transport wise its a complete nightmare.

The A259 is a joke , back in the 1960's we were suppose to get a "Dover to Honiton" road which would stretch from Kent to Devon but typically it never happend which backs up my post about how Governments of both colours have failed to develop the infrastructure needed for future growth. The A27 Road,another major arterial route is a complete nightmare as is the Dartford Crossing.Anyone who uses the Crossing on a regular basis will say the same.

But you feel free to continue to stick your fingers in your ears and ignore the facts on the ground..