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Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/11/uk-sweet-brexit-deluded-eu-europe-single-economy So many of us are nostalgic for a past that has gone forever
Yes, it's so terrible to be nostalgic for a past in which people could afford a house to live in for them and their families.....the government wasn't burdened with massive debts....people got the occasional pay rise....those were the good old days.
The good old days......before Labour.0 -
The ones who'll have their ar*es handed to them on a plate will be the so called 'disaffected' brexit voters. The irony.
What other option were they given, more of the same?
You seem happy to see them miserable regardless however they voted, maybe that played a part in this whole "forgotten" argument?0 -
What 'complete change' is coming?
I am genuinely bemused as to what you people think is going to change for you. The levels of immigration won't change. There is no sign at all that the economy will shift away from banking, services, and outsourcing of traditional jobs.
You're much more likely to get a Jeremy Corbyn Labour government now, I guess.
That'll put a smile on your face.
(Also the only worldview I have had trashed is that before Brexit I didn't suspect that a slight majority of my countrymen were xenophobic twits, and now I suspect they might be.)
The mechanism for immigration control will be in place, regardless. It doesn't matter if the Torys or Labour or whoever are doing nothing about immigration today, the important thing is there will be a mechanism in place for future generations, that's the important bit that seems to be missed time and time again.
In regards to Jeremy, he has had his time to shine, I doubt he will hit that peak again, as so much of it was built on basically misinforming the student vote.
There is nothing xenophobic in voting for Brexit, However there is bigotry for calling others xenophobic with little evidence beyond your own prejudice.0 -
Boredatwrork wrote: »What other option were they given, more of the same?
Remainers never answer the question as to where the million plus immigrants every 3 years are going to live.
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Yes, it's so terrible to be nostalgic for a past in which people could afford a house to live in for them and their families.....the government wasn't burdened with massive debts....people got the occasional pay rise....those were the good old days.
The good old days......before Labour.
In case you hadn't noticed the tories have been in power since 2010. Prior to the crash, (which by the way was caused by greedy bankers not the Labour Party and was also international), the economy was growing quite nicely and public services had markedly improved since the days of Thatcher's cuts.0 -
In case you hadn't noticed the tories have been in power since 2010. Prior to the crash, (which by the way was caused by greedy bankers not the Labour Party and was also international), the economy was growing quite nicely and public services had markedly improved since the days of Thatcher's cuts.
Greedy Bankers were still governed by the Law, a Law for the 10 years that led to the crash under Blair and Brown, even Gorden himself was patting himself on the back in 2007 at how well the economy was doing, they were in charge of the ship for the entire decade for gods sake, how can you claim it had nothing to do with them,.
Whats Thatcher got to do with what happened in 2007? There was also a recession in the early 90's I would imagine her influence has been superseded/challenged and policy changed 10 times over since then, and if not why not was Blair and Brown happy to follow this imaginary Thatcher legacy? from what many fo us could see they certainly liked to get their fingers dirty.
Blaming Thatcher is ridiculous.0 -
Boredatwrork wrote: »The mechanism for immigration control will be in place, regardless. It doesn't matter if the Torys or Labour or whoever are doing nothing about immigration today, the important thing is there will be a mechanism in place for future generations, that's the important bit that seems to be missed time and time again.
Eh?
Successive governments have chosen not to reduce immigration because no matter what they may say, in reality they know full well we need more immigration.
They've always had mechanisms to further control it.
They've just chosen not to use those mechanisms.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Boredatwrork wrote: »In regards to Jeremy, he has had his time to shine, I doubt he will hit that peak again, as so much of it was built on basically misinforming the student vote.
And yet Labour now leads the Tories in the polls....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
setmefree2 wrote: »Remainers never answer the question as to where the million plus immigrants every 3 years are going to live.]
Build.
More.
Houses.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Eh?
Successive governments have chosen not to reduce immigration because no matter what they may say, in reality they know full well we need more immigration.
They've always had mechanisms to further control it.
They've just chosen not to use those mechanisms.
They know we need immigration in certain fields, not an open door policy to all and sundry, but none of them dared mention it, rememebr a decade ago you were called a 'bigot' by our lovely Gorden to even dare show a concern, it wasnt even allowed to be talked about, let alone brought up in the house of commons.
There is no mechanism within the EU.0
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