Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Filo25 wrote: »

It's not just the EU doing this over Ireland's head, the Irish government has started talking a tougher line in recent months as well.

Ireland obviously has more trade exposure with the UK than pretty much anyone else so Brexit is certainly problematic for it, although it may end up picking up a fair bit of a financial services business (for a relatively small economy) which may ease the pain a bit.

Anyway, any polling I've seen for Ireland seems to indicate EU membership remains pretty popular there, unsurprisingly

EU membership popularity may well change if Irish jobs are lost because of EU belligerence over Brexit, or if Ireland are asked to significantly increase EU contributions and/or see reduced EU funding.

System

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Or do you instead perhaps think that all the 16 million remain voters upheld their "civic duty to be informed before voting" ?
:think:

No, not at all. Perhaps you should re-read post 17 here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=73069488&postcount=17

You guys need to pull your heads out of this leave/remain tribalism. I could post about my favourite crisp flavour and you'd find something about remain to turn the discussion into.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Or how about the EU agree to let us, the UK, opt out of further integration?
No Euro etc.
Oh hang on, Cameron tried that didn't he?

I was under the impression we weren't using the Euro, and could veto any further integration we didn't like?

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

I was under the impression we weren't using the Euro, and could veto any further integration we didn't like?

The UK has become increasingly marginalised as the EU has expanded. The UK and Germany have very different outlooks on many issues.

Moby

Matt_L wrote: »

No one seemed to care when the EU amended such legislation....

How democratic of you. So the Brexiteer belief in the sovereignty of our parliamentary scrutiny processes only matters when it is to their political advantage?

Moby

Thrugelmir wrote: »

She seems to have got back on track. While Corbyn appears to have gone totally off track with no coherent strategy to speak of.

The ineptness of the EU has provided a breathing space for the establishment to regroup. Matters are now moving forward with a purpose. Like it or not. The UK is spelling out a framework for the future. On which more detailed policy can be formulated.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/07/tories-theresa-may-eu-withdrawal-bill-henry-viii-powers

You are whistling in the wind Thrugelmir. Why would someone with my politics want this rubbish Govmt to have such powers? Even the Tory moderates don't trust the Brexit loons:-

Dominic Grieve, a former attorney general, called the bill, which transposes EU law on to the UK statute book, an “astonishing monstrosity”, because of the breadth of the executive powers it would hand to ministers during the Brexit process.

A Conservative source said Tories on either side of the Brexit debate were now coordinating their efforts to limit these so-called Henry VIII powers, by forcing the government to make concessions or risk a damaging defeat – demonstrating the difficulties the prime minister has in getting the Brexit legislation through parliament.

In an early sign the government is preparing to bend to the anger of backbenchers, Andrea Leadsom, the leader of the House of Commons, announced that she would set aside an extra two hours to debate the bill on Monday, giving MPs until midnight to air their concerns.

gfplux

kabayiri wrote: »

You do have to wonder why the Remain Team did not wheel out this 3 month ruling during the referendum campaign?

They got a pasting on the migration front.

I was told by someone who works with the housing department that the way the UK implements the rule books here makes it difficult at times to follow the EU guidelines. Has anyone more information on this?

In one set of recent figures there were 77,000 EU migrants who arrived here without securing work first. I'd have liked the government to show the stats as to how many of those had secured employment after 3 months. Then we could see the deportation stats to prove the process is working as designed.

I have arrived at the port of Dover multiple times over the last few years in a "foreign" car carrying passengers of different EU nationalitys with the driver (me) being the only Brit. About 50% if not more of the time not having any passports looked at in either side of the Channel.
So with no checks on EU nationals arriving in Britain (from the Schengen area) the Government failed at the first step to have any control.
Yes this is anecdotal and I too would be interested as to why Britain completely ignored the existing EU regulations.

CKhalvashi

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Responses highlighted in red above.
We know you're pro-EU.
I have no problem with that, after all you're as entitled to your opinion as anybody else.
But your misconceptions given as reasons for your belief are often apparent.

I'm not confused, I'm not misguided, I have never denied I am pro-EU. I have an opinion, that opinion may or may not turn out to be correct. I hope it won't, I believe it will.

Until either way it happens I cannot be told I'm wrong.

What were my thoughts on the election again by the way? Oh, yes, 'nothing short of pure fantasy'. Please do remind everyone how correct I was on the outcome.

Moby wrote: »

How democratic of you. So the Brexiteer belief in the sovereignty of our parliamentary scrutiny processes only matters when it is to their political advantage?

Seems to be the case.

I believed this was all about parliamentary sovereignty. The minute I request that parliament is involved in something I'm immediately in the wrong........

Rusty_Shackleton

Pound sterling's crash after Brexit vote 'more harm than good', says British Chambers of Commerce

This is in line with my experience in manufacturing, theres been some gains, but these are due to selling products abroad at todays exchange rates, when the components were bought (or at least, contract negotiated) when GBP was stronger. Temporary boost, people not in industry don't understand the lag, even with JIT manufacturing,due to the way supply contracts work. We've been watching our costs rise in little bursts here and there, and we know exactly when the next ones are coming...we just look at contract expiration dates.

gfplux

Conrad wrote: »

But surely we're too small and without influence to be able to manage such a feat? Clegg told me so.

Note it is a plan!
"The plans to create a testing "corridor" along the M40 between London and Coventry with bases in the midlands city and Stratford are part of £100m of investment in the technology promised by the government industrial strategy.

Meridian, announced today by industry and climate change minister Claire Perry, will also involve private business and is also seeking to attract foreign investment."


This is a great opportunity but British ministers of all political persuasions announce lots of plans. I wonder what % are fulfilled.