Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Conrad wrote: »

'Another thick Brexiteer talking bolloxx'

Speaking of which....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Rlub0N2Zk

kabayiri

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Thing is though there really is no escaping the fact that everyone's welfare is ultimately linked.

Something that makes businesses poorer will ultimately make employees poorer as well.

Something that reduces the tax take from where it would otherwise have been will ultimately reduce all our living standards as we have to make up the gap somehow.



Or more specifically a gap in understanding of the links between local and national prosperity.

I can genuinely see the correlation here, but if you don't carry the people with you, then you don't really have much do you.

It's like the EU project. Like many I had to research the Euro and it's cost of introduction. I admit that I could see the obvious attractions of a single trading currency.

What I didn't realize is how the resulting change created social divisions in Europe. How do wealthy Germans convince poor Greeks and Portuguese of the greater good?

Maybe this is where the vast proportion of the social cohesion fund should have gone, instead of into Eastern expansion.

kabayiri

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Speaking of which....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Rlub0N2Zk

Is J.O.B you Hamish?

He does have this loaded question style

I don't want to burst the LBC bubble, but do you know how many people they have to vet the callers?

It is really heavily staged. They know what they are going to say before they get close to speaking with O' Brien.

System

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Speaking of which....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Rlub0N2Zk

Poor Wayne. That was really hard to watch to the end with all my cringing. I did have a proper laugh at 5:58 though.

Doesn't look like Wayne upheld his civic duty to be informed before voting.

kabayiri

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sometimes you just need the best person for the task in hand. Whether you like them or not is of no consequence. (Not that you actually know them).

I thought TM had more stickability, and offered the focus needed to get through Brexit.

Which is why I was surprised that the Tory manifesto was loaded with things which I felt were poorly timed. The absolute priority should have been Brexit IMO.

Between JC and TM, they have both managed to make the UK political establishment look weak at the worst possible time.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Speaking of which....

And you were doing so well up until that.

There are many posts in Brexit-related threads regarding the obvious choosing of callers on that show, besides kabayiri's.

Joeskeppi wrote: »

Doesn't look like Wayne upheld his civic duty to be informed before voting.

With over 17 million leave voters there was bound to be some, do you not recognise that?
Or do you instead perhaps think that all the 16 million remain voters upheld their "civic duty to be informed before voting" ?
:think:

kabayiri

You do have to wonder why the Remain Team did not wheel out this 3 month ruling during the referendum campaign?

They got a pasting on the migration front.

I was told by someone who works with the housing department that the way the UK implements the rule books here makes it difficult at times to follow the EU guidelines. Has anyone more information on this?

In one set of recent figures there were 77,000 EU migrants who arrived here without securing work first. I'd have liked the government to show the stats as to how many of those had secured employment after 3 months. Then we could see the deportation stats to prove the process is working as designed.

Conrad

Think the north and the poor caused Brexit? Think again
Zoe Williams

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/07/north-poor-brexit-myths


In fact, most leave voters were in the south: the south-east, south-west – indeed the entire south apart from London voted leave.

Furthermore, most leave voters are middle class, or at least were of the generation whose housing and pension windfalls put them squarely in the category of wealth.

Carl31

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Speaking of which....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Rlub0N2Zk

interesting point by J.O.B in that video

We are lowest performing economy in the EU, lower than Greece. about a year after we voted to leave

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp-growth

According to that website, our lowest GBP point since the 1950s, was 1974, the year after we joined the EU, down from a record 5% growth prior to joining

The point...growth rates go and up and down over time and our vote to leave isnt the end of the UK, just as our decision to join in 1973 wasnt

A_Medium_Size_Jock

The start of a "ramping up" in transport technology gets underway:
"Full speed ahead: The UK's accelerating its transport tech drive with driverless hub and Wayra startup accelerator"

A fresh government report estimates that connected and autonomous vehicle (CAV) technology wil be worth £907bn globally by 2035 and £52bn in the UK alone, creating 27,000 jobs, the majority of which will be highly skilled.
"... through government investment and collaboration with industry in this area we will ensure that the UK becomes one of the global ‘go to’ destinations for the development of this technology,"

http://www.cityam.com/271576/full-speed-ahead-uks-accelerating-its-transport-tech-drive