Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Arklight

gfplux wrote: »

Off topic.
The word immigrant is used in a negative way, while expat gives the opposite impression.
Brits who have emigrated like to describe themselves as expats to set themselves apart and above "the immigrants" who some of them think of as foreigners living in Britain.
As a sign that we are all humans we should not be using labels like this.
So wherever you come from if you live in another country you are an immigrant.
We live in the 21st Century not in Britains Colonial past.

As everything is in England, it's all about class and class perception.

TrickyTree83

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

I suppose it is depressing if you're a "glass half empty" type.
Those of us with a "glass half full" disposition can see the positives too.

You're allegedly surprised by the Telegraph's TM story because you have an anti-Brexit agenda, no more than that.
Just because they are pro-Tory does not necessarily mean pro-TM.
They similarly reported upon Osborne's anti-May front pages; published criticism of her "plans to fine online companies over extremist material" etc. etc. etc.
I wonder why you did not comment upon the "significance" of any of these?
Regardless, it is no surprise to me; I did say that I expected media nonsense around the time the repeal bill was debated.



Oh and BTW - no, I am not a fan of Theresa May.

I don't think anyone is particularly a fan of TM. Which shows how poorly "Jezza" is regarded outside of the socialist echo chamber.

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

. I'm saying it is significant when the Torygraph runs with this stuff as well.

It really isn't as you will find out.

Thrugelmir

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I don't think anyone is particularly a fan of TM.

Sometimes you just need the best person for the task in hand. Whether you like them or not is of no consequence. (Not that you actually know them).

Conrad

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

People said the same thing with the industrial revolution, the advent of assembly line manufacturing, and it's been said regularly since the advent of computers.

You are correct about the past, however the scale and pace of change from disruptive technology is unprecedented, and whilst this has been said in the past, I think it may be true this time.


Last year whilst in Singapore I noticed acres of newspaper space given over to the adaptations Singapore was preparing for. Everything from staffless shops (already exist) to automated Hotel check-in desks.


Understand that teams of Silicon Valley workers are looking to intrude on and disrupt most everything.


Here's about one of the best authorities on disruptive technology and he goes into some detail covering precisely the point you make - how THIS TIME IT REALLY IS DIFFERENT;


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjIz7j4-ZLWAhUpCcAKHXBNDzkQtwIIKzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DM27KECEL5Zo&usg=AFQjCNG5eAoBEfwG-leGA4XBoOyDUEKp6A

Conrad

fewgroats wrote: »

There are also a number of creative occupations which can't be done effectively better than AI.

Yet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0916ghz/secrets-of-silicon-valley-series-1-1-the-disruptors

Conrad

Arklight wrote: »

As everything is in England, it's all about class and class perception.

This came into stark relief following the referendum where armies of 'progressives' openly disparaged 'thick Geordies that will come to regret their vote' or 'thick white van Men' and on and on it went.


The mask certainly slipped from many a 'progressives' face


Prediction - you will claim not to have noticed any of this.


It continues to this day;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8igwrx6bll0


Published on 5 Sep 2017
'Another thick Brexiteer talking bolloxx'

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

kabayiri wrote: »

Truthfully, I'm on the wrong forum.

I'm more interested in the process of change, and how we deal with it on a much smaller scale than national level.

Thing is though there really is no escaping the fact that everyone's welfare is ultimately linked.

Something that makes businesses poorer will ultimately make employees poorer as well.

Something that reduces the tax take from where it would otherwise have been will ultimately reduce all our living standards as we have to make up the gap somehow.

Maybe the Brexit vote was a mismatch between local expectations and national interest.

Or more specifically a gap in understanding of the links between local and national prosperity.

Conrad

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Thing is though there really is no escaping the fact that everyone's welfare is ultimately linked.

Something that makes businesses poorer will ultimately make employees poorer as well.

Yes this is my hope and ultimate belief. Although disruptive tech will take many scalps, society will have to find a way to employ / pay people otherwise everyone suffers as things collapse.

Conrad

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sometimes you just need the best person for the task in hand. Whether you like them or not is of no consequence.

Very true.
I don't know the boss of Sony, I just go by product outcomes.