Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Filo25

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

You're pontificating.
There are facts so far upon which to base beliefs; read the thread.
Manufacturing & exports up.
Universities thriving.
Inward investment thriving.
Etc. etc. etc.

Real wages declining
Growth falling towards the back of the G7, as compared to where we stood pre referendum.
Collapse in Sterling which may help exporters but it certainly doesn't help any person off on their summer holidays.

How on earth does anyone give Brexit the credit for Oxford and Cambridge doing well in an Intl league table anyway?!

andrewf75

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

You're pontificating.
There are facts so far upon which to base beliefs; read the thread.
Manufacturing & exports up.
Universities thriving.
Inward investment thriving.
Etc. etc. etc.

yes cherry picked facts to suit one sides view
There are plenty of remainers doing exactly the same thing

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

What do you mean largest voting group do you mean people who actually voted or people who could vote. Apart from a few years there a fewer people in every age group over 65 than below.

Largest that voted. There's always a higher turnout of 65+

andrewf75

Filo25 wrote: »

How on earth does anyone give Brexit the credit for Oxford and Cambridge doing well in an Intl league table anyway?!

Ironic as well given the widely acknowledged mass support for remain in these institutions

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Largest that voted. There's always a higher turnout of 65+

So whose fault is that ?

I get fed up with people blaming older voters if young voters turned out we might not be leaving.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

So whose fault is that ?

I get fed up with people blaming older voters if young voters turned out we might not be leaving.

No ones fault. The retired are just more likely to be available to vote, more able to afford to vote, less put off by the weather. Voting is a lot easier for a pensioner with a car than a full time worker with kids that needs to walk.

My point was that the group with most sway is also the only one that voted in the majority for brexit, whilst simultaneously being the least impacted by it.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

No ones fault. The retired are just more likely to be available to vote, more able to afford to vote, less put off by the weather. Voting is a lot easier for a pensioner with a car than a full time worker with kids that needs to walk.

My point was that the group with most sway is also the only one that voted in the majority for brexit, whilst simultaneously being the least impacted by it.

That's just poor excuses.

18% of population are over 65, while 63% are between 16 and 64.

kabayiri

I actually think Brexit will lead to some challenging times.

Ultimately, it will make us stronger and hopefully let us break away from this consumption culture. This is just IMO.

Anyway, interesting times lie ahead.

Thrugelmir

Filo25 wrote: »

Real wages declining
Growth falling towards the back of the G7, as compared to where we stood pre referendum.
Collapse in Sterling which may help exporters but it certainly doesn't help any person off on their summer holidays.

Nothing to with Brexit. Productivity starts at home.

British cities make up 11 of the 50 lowest-skilled cities in Europe when ranked by the share of workers with less than the equivalent of five good GCSEs, according to analysis by the Centre for Cities think-tank.

Dundee is the worst-performing UK city on this measure, with 47 per cent of residents classified as low skilled. By comparison, in London, just under a quarter of residents are low skilled.

https://www.ft.com/content/b53933c0-8e23-11e7-9084-d0c17942ba93

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

No ones fault. The retired are just more likely to be available to vote, more able to afford to vote, less put off by the weather. Voting is a lot easier for a pensioner with a car than a full time worker with kids that needs to walk.

Tough lives people live these days. Spoon fed. Nanny state. :eek: