Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Again your concern from people is overwhelming. Would you walk a mile or 2 I'm torrential rain with a young baby?

Now you'll say "but pensioners can make it in the same conditions" but they are less likely to have to walk.

I'm not talking about a bit of drizzle. But I'm sure you know that.

How many of people who didn't vote are single parents, you know the reason most didn't vote was apathy just admit it.

Getting back on topic, there will not be another referendum so we just have to accept the result and move on.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

Can we get back to the topic rather than this pedantry?

We would all prefer to debate the real issues. Not spurious beliefs that have no substance. :beer:

Conrad

What do you lot make of the leaked document outlining new tough immigration policy? I lurve it. Bring people in of course in the way Vanada does. Nobody hates Canada.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

How many of people who didn't vote are single parents, you know the reason most didn't vote was apathy just admit it.

Getting back on topic, there will not be another referendum so we just have to accept the result and move on.

I don't know how many can't vs won't vote. I guess those that registered but didn't turn up would give you an idea of those that intended to vote but for some reason didn't.

I'm merely providing suggestions as to why more pensioners vote than any other group. I'm a keen voter but with a young child I nearly missed it and had to make much more effort to go.

Thrugelmir

Conrad wrote: »

Remainers are completely missing that the trade defecit and the production gap were unsustainable. £ at fair value is a gift that will gradually put the national wallet in better balance and produce better quality jobs than an economy so skewed to importing tat funded by credit.

Problem is a high % of what the UK exports. Contains imported product. From such a low manufacturing base. Export growth alone isn't sufficient to drive the economy forward. Requires a more fundamental shift to reduce dependency on imports where ever possible. Likewise better quality jobs requires a skilled workforce. As the older skills die out, there's a lack of people availble to train the new generation. Investment in people isn't an overnight matter either.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

If employment is really so low, why are wages still going up behind inflation?

Wages are paid from profits earnt. Profits aren't growing that quickly.

Employers are also having to fund pension contributions now. So the headlines aren't strictly true.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

I don't know how many can't vs won't vote. I guess those that registered but didn't turn up would give you an idea of those that intended to vote but for some reason didn't.

I'm merely providing suggestions as to why more pensioners vote than any other group. I'm a keen voter but with a young child I nearly missed it and had to make much more effort to go.

I think it's apathy the older voters were probably the same when they were younger.

The turn out increased with age the 18-24 year olds turning out in the lowest numbers,

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm merely providing suggestions as to why more pensioners vote than any other group. I'm a keen voter but with a young child I nearly missed it and had to make much more effort to go.

In any election. People who do care. Vote. Never been any different.

PixelPound

Herzlos wrote: »

Polling stations may be open 7-10, but if you work that window is much reduced.
If you can't afford bus fare to get there, that's a problem.
If it's too wet to walk it, that's a problem.
If your kids are unwell, that's a problem.

None of that's to do with any generation having it easier; except when it comes to voting the pensioner class has less roadblocks.


You're right though; everyone should have been voting and I'm never happy with those that could have voted, but didn't. I've more sympathy with those that couldn't for some reason.

So the pensioner on the basic state pension unable to afford a car, may not be able to walk as far as when they were younger, is more likely than a younger fitter full-time worker who has wage and tax credits to afford big TV's,smoking, and going out to the pub?

We can all talk about stereotypes and excuses. Voting is just low down on the priority scale for many younger people

Loanranger

Herzlos wrote: »

Yup, pretty useful if you have the foresight to register.

Yes, because general elections are, of course, called without any notice whatsoever and thus no-one is forewarned nor prepared and there are no party election broadcasts to hint at the forthcoming event.