IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

PCN for breastfeeding - Appeal lost with Premier Parking

16781012

Comments

  • I would rather focusing my attention on things that are more relevant to us like getting rid of this PCN
    I honestly think pressing the landowner and making them take this seriously is one of your best chances of getting rid of it! Don't let the opportunity pass you by.

    We got in touch with the landowner as suggested and he didn't even bother to reply to our letter. It was not an LBA though but if we send one it is because we are going to go all the way.
  • https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/discrimination-in-the-provision-of-goods-and-services/discrimination-in-the-provision-of-goods-and-services1/goods-and-services-what-are-the-different-types-of-discrimination/provision-of-goods-and-services-pregnancy-and-maternity-discrimination/


    Do some google research.


    Equality Act may still be the way to go. You CAN then write a legitimate LBC to the landowner.


    I've helped before with LBCs in residential cases written to the freeholder and/or management company/agent, where they have previously been totally disinterested. The LBCs led to the immediate withdrawal of the PCN when they thought that they may actually be sued. The point is that they will wash their hands of this until they are forced to confront it.


    I think you should do some further research - this site says that there is no 26 week bar - they may help you if you contact them.
    https://www.maternityaction.org.uk/advice-2/mums-dads-scenarios/6-breastfeeding-rights/breastfeeding-in-public-places/
    Although a practising Solicitor, my posts here are NOT legal advice, but are personal opinion based on limited facts provided anonymously by forum users. I accept no liability for the accuracy of any such posts and users are advised that, if they wish to obtain formal legal advice specific to their case, they must seek instruct and pay a solicitor.
  • Also, are you/your wife on Mumsnet? It can be a very good resource for this sort of thing (the breastfeeding/equality issue I mean, not private parking companies). I think there is a legal "board", and there is bound to be a breastfeeding one. It's easy to join.
    Although a practising Solicitor, my posts here are NOT legal advice, but are personal opinion based on limited facts provided anonymously by forum users. I accept no liability for the accuracy of any such posts and users are advised that, if they wish to obtain formal legal advice specific to their case, they must seek instruct and pay a solicitor.
  • https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/discrimination-in-the-provision-of-goods-and-services/discrimination-in-the-provision-of-goods-and-services1/goods-and-services-what-are-the-different-types-of-discrimination/provision-of-goods-and-services-pregnancy-and-maternity-discrimination/


    Do some google research.


    Equality Act may still be the way to go. You CAN then write a legitimate LBC to the landowner.


    I've helped before with LBCs in residential cases written to the freeholder and/or management company/agent, where they have previously been totally disinterested. The LBCs led to the immediate withdrawal of the PCN when they thought that they may actually be sued. The point is that they will wash their hands of this until they are forced to confront it.


    I think you should do some further research - this site says that there is no 26 week bar - they may help you if you contact them.
    https://www.maternityaction.org.uk/advice-2/mums-dads-scenarios/6-breastfeeding-rights/breastfeeding-in-public-places/
    Also, are you/your wife on Mumsnet? It can be a very good resource for this sort of thing (the breastfeeding/equality issue I mean, not private parking companies). I think there is a legal "board", and there is bound to be a breastfeeding one. It's easy to join.

    Thanks for your help, I am trying to get the draft with our comments finished by tomorrow night so that I can upload it and share it for feedback at the weekend. I will have a look at it after that.
  • Hi all,

    I am almost done writing our comments to the evidence presented by the parking operator to our POPLA appeal.

    I have uploaded it to the following location.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ziAJSZy6JReHhzVXlZaVYxRWs/view?usp=sharing


    Any feedback will be much appreciated, thanks.

    I will upload the whole thing hopefully tomorrow night.

    Cheers
  • I have finished our comments on the evidence presented by the parking operator. The final draft has been uploaded to the link shown below.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ziAJSZy6JRa0huc2xpOGM2SFU/view?usp=sharing


    Any feedback is much appreciated. I will be sending the document tonight.

    We are now going to start enquiring organisations as suggested by Loadsofchildren123 to see if we can start a case against them.

    Thanks for your support.
  • damargil
    damargil Posts: 43 Forumite
    Our POPLA appeal was unsuccessful, reading the comments from the POPLA assessor, I would say that our rebuttal was completely ignored.

    Let me know, if you need to outcome for reference.

    Cheers
  • damargil wrote: »
    We got in touch with the landowner as suggested and he didn't even bother to reply to our letter. It was not an LBA though but if we send one it is because we are going to go all the way.
    Sometimes just receiving a LBA will make a company sit up and take notice, especially when they know that their staff or agents haven't complied with the law and they have no leg to stand on (PPCs and their employers in a nutshell).

    Also, it may make them, as Loadsofchildren123 said, cancel the PCN and want to come to a settlement agreement without seeing a court room.

    FYI, I'm about to raise a Data Protection Act (DPA) complaint to a company and, if I'm not happy with their response, I'll be hitting them with a LBA - and I'll do my damndest to follow through with it too.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,438 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Please let us see the assessors reasons for rejection.

    Can you let us see the Premier Park Evidence Pack

    I can’t seem to be able to open your rebuttal of the PP EP
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,861 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Happens sometimes, it's only POPLA. No need to panic or pay them of course, no-one else has in your position.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.