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Flat doesn't come with cooker?

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  • SuboJvR
    SuboJvR Posts: 481 Forumite
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    Electric ovens are fine and often easiest - you just need to check there's a suitable socket for it (presumably this is what the current tenants have plugged in).

    As for hob, I like to have a gas hob as it is easier to manage the heat (e.g. You turn the heat down once water is boiling, and it goes straight down - electric the plate remains hot for a while before settling), and once it's off you know as no more flame, electric plates risk of forgetting and touching or putting something on it if you're daft! :D
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    My tip for starting out:

    If it's just you .... then you might find a mini oven does the job - and there's no concern over deliveries, fitting - and moving it when you move out.

    Although you can get them for about £30, you might like to spend a bit more (say ~£80-100) to get one that's a bit more "oven like" rather than "toaster like"

    When it comes to cheap/small places and renting ... it's often a good idea in the early years to think "small/cheap/portable" rather than trying to "set up a home" because belongings are expensive liabilities to move when you move on ....

    e.g. fabric wardrobes, blow up beds, minimum melamine plates ... unbreakable/lightweight stuff you can simply "pack up and move in a box yourself"

    If you start off with the idea of "creating a home" then have to move, it can be a costly nightmare to get all your "proper/solid goods" shifted.
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 7 August 2017 at 8:36AM
    Its an idea Pastures New.., but is the OP wanting to feel like they are camping out? Fun for a holiday or festival but not really good in your home.

    I bought a cheap fridge freezer for £46 when moving into a council house. I bought an expensive cooker because I didn't want to clean it and I cook a lot.., but when I was starting out, used second hand electric basic cookers.

    If you spend time looking around on ebay, and don't jump for the first thing you see, you can get some good bargains. But you might have to arrange picking the cooker etc up.

    OP best thing to do is wait til you move in or ask the LA if the place has a gas supply for the cooker. To be honest, I'd expect it to be electric only.

    Another reason LL's don't always supply white goods (besides the chance of being obligated to repair them) is you can find tenants run off with them. MY previous LL had an integrated hob and cooker to make this more difficult. But they were cheap and nasty and didn't work properly. Became the bane of my life lol. Running costs matter a lot to me, and by sourcing new items that are economical to run the white goods probably pay for themselves over a couple of years. A 20 year old fridge freezer is going to cost a fortune to run (I found my electric bills dropped considerably, even with the second hand Ebay fridge freezer compared to the antique my previous LL supplied).
  • culpepper
    culpepper Posts: 4,076 Forumite
    If the LL is not open to your suggestion ...Why not evaluate what things you will be cooking and then you would have some sort of idea what cooking facility you really need?

    A full sized oven might actually be way more than is needed.
    We have one that is used about twice a year for turkey...everything else is cooked in a combination microwave or the slow cooker and the hob.
  • aneary
    aneary Posts: 921 Forumite
    I managed to cook a roast for 6 people in an microwave oven combi including yorkshire puddings.

    I was hard and annoying but doable.

    We did however have a working hob.
  • always_sunny
    always_sunny Posts: 8,314 Forumite
    Slinky wrote: »

    What is a kitchen press, suitable or otherwise?
    I had to google it and it appears to be cabinets!
    I thought it was a sandwich maker! :D
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  • glennevis
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    OK, I've read through the whole of this thread and if I was the OP I would be concerned about that existing gas oven. My suspicion would be that the LL doesn't want the responsibility of dealing with the oven either now or in the future. Firstly, if the LL supplies a gas oven it has to have a gas safety certificate which must then be renewed annually. But the agent claims the oven was a previous tenant's so does it even have one? If the oven is removed, it has to be done by a Gas Safe registered engineer, costing the LL money (so you or your dad can't just remove it, that would be illegal). If the agent somehow persuades you to inherit the former tenant's oven which is not going to be on the inventory, how would you know it is currently safe and why should you pay for removal? The agent may even try to persuade you to pay for it as well!

    I would insist the gas oven is removed at the LL expense so you can buy your own appliance.
  • teddysmum
    teddysmum Posts: 9,529 Forumite
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    SuboJvR wrote: »
    Electric ovens are fine and often easiest - you just need to check there's a suitable socket for it (presumably this is what the current tenants have plugged in).

    As for hob, I like to have a gas hob as it is easier to manage the heat (e.g. You turn the heat down once water is boiling, and it goes straight down - electric the plate remains hot for a while before settling), and once it's off you know as no more flame, electric plates risk of forgetting and touching or putting something on it if you're daft! :D



    Very few cookers can be 'plugged in'. When my husband was an apprentice at a manufacturers, they were shown how to hard wire fit one, but believe that you now have to have it done by a professional, as you certainly have to with gas.


    I prefer an electric hob, as it's easier to clean and more stable (no holes for pans to tip into). Most (all?) have red warning lights showing which ring is still hot, yet I burned a handbag on my father's gas cooker, as I placed it being unable to see that there was a flame.
  • we bought a flat without an oven (but with hob). We used a small table top plug in thing for a while until we saved up enough to redo our kitchen (no point in buying an oven before as we owned the flat and kitchen always needed redoing). It was annoying at first but after a while we got so used to not having an oven and just used the hob. So maybe thing if you can cope in this way as plug in small hobs are quite affordable?

    other wise shop around some ovens can be just plugged in - newer ones more typically - its all to do with voltage but if you do you're research thy are out there.........I'd be more inclined to go down this route rather than have gas fitters etc for a property I was renting.
  • cjmillsnun
    cjmillsnun Posts: 615 Forumite
    edited 7 August 2017 at 7:03PM
    teddysmum wrote: »
    Very few cookers can be 'plugged in'. When my husband was an apprentice at a manufacturers, they were shown how to hard wire fit one, but believe that you now have to have it done by a professional, as you certainly have to with gas.


    I prefer an electric hob, as it's easier to clean and more stable (no holes for pans to tip into). Most (all?) have red warning lights showing which ring is still hot, yet I burned a handbag on my father's gas cooker, as I placed it being unable to see that there was a flame.

    Fitting a cooker isn't Part P so can be wired into an existing cooker outlet. If a cooker circuit isn't there, then that is Part P and will require a spark.

    However you are talking about a high amperage circuit which requires cable of the correct specification and you would not want to get his wrong. Therefore I would recommend a spark to fit it.
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