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  • AtticLock said:
    Hi,  

    Hope that you're well and thanks for your help.  

    We're looking to obtain the: 

    Official copy of Title Register Entries.
    Title Plan relating to our property. 

    and were thinking of using form OC1. Do you know whether this would be the correct form and would £22 (for one copy of each) be the correct ammount?  

    We were wondering if it would be possible to know roughly how long it usually takes to return the docuements as well, please (although we completely understand any timeline would be an estimate and not binding!).  

    Really apprecaite your help and sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere.  

    Have a great weekend.
    If you want official copies then form OC1 and £11 for each is correct. You can apply for both using the one form and a combined fee
    Processing times are generally 24/48 hrs at our end so all about the postal service both to and from as well. 
    In my experience if you applied today then odds are you would receive the OCs around 27th Jan.
    That's brilliant, thank you so much!
  • mime20
    mime20 Posts: 45 Forumite
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    My parents & I each owned 1/3 of our house as tenants in common (freehold morgage-free property). My father died & left me his share. Probate has now come through. My mum and I are continuing to live in the property.

    Do we:
    1-  fill in form DJP and send it off with the death cert to the land registry to remove my dad from the title deeds.

    2- does the existing type A restriction (re tenants in common) remain or do we have to fill in another form? If we do could you tell me which one please.

    3- we're drawing up a deed of trust to record the fact that I now own 2/3s and my mum 1/3 of the property - do we send that off to be registered with you as well? If so is there another form to fill in to go with it?

    Thanks





  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,163 Organisation Representative
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    edited 23 January at 5:13PM
    mime20 said:
    My parents & I each owned 1/3 of our house as tenants in common (freehold morgage-free property). My father died & left me his share. Probate has now come through. My mum and I are continuing to live in the property.

    Do we:
    1-  fill in form DJP and send it off with the death cert to the land registry to remove my dad from the title deeds.

    2- does the existing type A restriction (re tenants in common) remain or do we have to fill in another form? If we do could you tell me which one please.

    3- we're drawing up a deed of trust to record the fact that I now own 2/3s and my mum 1/3 of the property - do we send that off to be registered with you as well? If so is there another form to fill in to go with it?

    Thanks

    1. Yes - the register can be updated at any time following a death
    2. It remains
    3. No - the form A/joint ownership restriction protects the 'trust'. We don't then record or register the specific details of that trust as it relates to your beneficial ownerships. It remains 'off the register' so to speak 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • mime20
    mime20 Posts: 45 Forumite
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    mime20 said:
    My parents & I each owned 1/3 of our house as tenants in common (freehold morgage-free property). My father died & left me his share. Probate has now come through. My mum and I are continuing to live in the property.

    Do we:
    1-  fill in form DJP and send it off with the death cert to the land registry to remove my dad from the title deeds.

    2- does the existing type A restriction (re tenants in common) remain or do we have to fill in another form? If we do could you tell me which one please.

    3- we're drawing up a deed of trust to record the fact that I now own 2/3s and my mum 1/3 of the property - do we send that off to be registered with you as well? If so is there another form to fill in to go with it?

    Thanks

    1. Yes - the register can be updated at any time following a death
    2. It remains
    3. No - the form A/joint ownership restriction protects the 'trust'. We don't then record or register the specific details of that trust as it relates to your beneficial ownerships. It remains 'off the register' so to speak 

    Thanks. I forgot to ask - do you automatically send me a new official copy of the title documents or do I apply for those after my dad's name is removed from the register? [I take it I am informed somehow when this has happened :) ]

    Thanks for your help
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,163 Organisation Representative
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    mime20 said:
    mime20 said:
    My parents & I each owned 1/3 of our house as tenants in common (freehold morgage-free property). My father died & left me his share. Probate has now come through. My mum and I are continuing to live in the property.

    Do we:
    1-  fill in form DJP and send it off with the death cert to the land registry to remove my dad from the title deeds.

    2- does the existing type A restriction (re tenants in common) remain or do we have to fill in another form? If we do could you tell me which one please.

    3- we're drawing up a deed of trust to record the fact that I now own 2/3s and my mum 1/3 of the property - do we send that off to be registered with you as well? If so is there another form to fill in to go with it?

    Thanks

    1. Yes - the register can be updated at any time following a death
    2. It remains
    3. No - the form A/joint ownership restriction protects the 'trust'. We don't then record or register the specific details of that trust as it relates to your beneficial ownerships. It remains 'off the register' so to speak 

    Thanks. I forgot to ask - do you automatically send me a new official copy of the title documents or do I apply for those after my dad's name is removed from the register? [I take it I am informed somehow when this has happened :) ]

    Thanks for your help
    Whoever applies will receive a copy of the updated register along with confirmation of a completed application
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Hi,
    I need a copy of the official copy of register of title as an accompanying document for a leaseholder deed of certificate. I need to send one copy of the deed of certificate with accompanying documents to the freeholder and make a copy for future conveyancing. 
    My query is do I need to request two official copies of the register of title from the land registry or am I allowed to request one copy and then make a copy of it to go with my copy of the deed of certificate?
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,163 Organisation Representative
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    Hi,
    I need a copy of the official copy of register of title as an accompanying document for a leaseholder deed of certificate. I need to send one copy of the deed of certificate with accompanying documents to the freeholder and make a copy for future conveyancing. 
    My query is do I need to request two official copies of the register of title from the land registry or am I allowed to request one copy and then make a copy of it to go with my copy of the deed of certificate?
    Not a Q for us but one for whoever has explained the 'need' you refer to.
    If the need is for BOTH to have an original official copy attached then you need two. 
    If your Q is can you make a photocopy and share that with someone then the answer is Yes but as soon as it's copied it's no longer an official copy of course
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Thank you. That information does answer what I needed to know. 
    Land_Registry said:
    Hi,
    I need a copy of the official copy of register of title as an accompanying document for a leaseholder deed of certificate. I need to send one copy of the deed of certificate with accompanying documents to the freeholder and make a copy for future conveyancing. 
    My query is do I need to request two official copies of the register of title from the land registry or am I allowed to request one copy and then make a copy of it to go with my copy of the deed of certificate?
    Not a Q for us but one for whoever has explained the 'need' you refer to.
    If the need is for BOTH to have an original official copy attached then you need two. 
    If your Q is can you make a photocopy and share that with someone then the answer is Yes but as soon as it's copied it's no longer an official copy of course

  • ginja_ninja_2
    ginja_ninja_2 Posts: 19 Forumite
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    Hello Land Registry,

    My partner's mum is transferring her mortgage free property to me as she can't afford to maintain it (by way of gift).  I understand I will need form AP1 (application), TR1 (transfer form) and ID1 for both of us to be submitted with the Land Certificate.

    She has given me the title deeds, it is a Charge Certificate (blue) and still shows the 2002 mortgage on the Charges Register.  She told me that when she repaid the mortgage, the lender forwarded the deeds to her and she didn't do anything else with the deeds other than put them in a safe place. 

    Whilst waiting for her to find the deeds, I applied online for an up to date copy and the mortgage in 2002 is not mentioned on the Charges Register.  Does that mean that the Lender informed the Land Registry that the charge has been repaid in full, that's why it does not appear on the up to date copy I have?  Do I need to do anything else, or can I just send in the forms mentioned above with the Charge Certificate and I will presumably get back a Land Certificate with no mention of the mortgage? 

    Thank you  
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,163 Organisation Representative
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    Hello Land Registry,

    My partner's mum is transferring her mortgage free property to me as she can't afford to maintain it (by way of gift).  I understand I will need form AP1 (application), TR1 (transfer form) and ID1 for both of us to be submitted with the Land Certificate.

    She has given me the title deeds, it is a Charge Certificate (blue) and still shows the 2002 mortgage on the Charges Register.  She told me that when she repaid the mortgage, the lender forwarded the deeds to her and she didn't do anything else with the deeds other than put them in a safe place. 

    Whilst waiting for her to find the deeds, I applied online for an up to date copy and the mortgage in 2002 is not mentioned on the Charges Register.  Does that mean that the Lender informed the Land Registry that the charge has been repaid in full, that's why it does not appear on the up to date copy I have?  Do I need to do anything else, or can I just send in the forms mentioned above with the Charge Certificate and I will presumably get back a Land Certificate with no mention of the mortgage? 

    Thank you  
    The register is held by us electronically and if the current version does not refer to the mortgage (legal charge) then it's been removed (discharged) as suggested
    We don't need the CC and you won't get a LC after the transfer. They are obsolete now and don't prove ownership. If you lodge the CC we will not retain it and it will be destroyed
    Where are my title deeds, and do I need them? – HM Land Registry 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
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