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  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,150 Organisation Representative
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    We've recently purchased a property and are checking the neighbors title they have rights of access marked in yellow however the yellow does not appear on the title plan. why would it not appear?
    I’m guessing the yellow is referred to in the entry and at the end there’s a Note to explain it. If it says Copy plan filed then it’s not on the title plan but on the actual deed’s plan. You can apply by post for a copy of that 
    https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Land_Registry
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    justcat01 said:
    @Land_Registry I'm hoping you might be able to help with this 

    I'm selling my house which I bought using HCA's Help to Buy Equity loan. I paid that off on the 27th July but it looks like the charge is still showing on GR390587 and GR394805 (freehold house and leasehold garage). 

    Are you able to see if the HCA has requested the removal of the charge and where it is in the process?

    Thanks :smile:
    Nothing as yet 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • GSGMSE said:
    GSGMSE said:
    @Land_Registry Just trying to find out how do we know if something is being expedited?  My solicitor put in a request to expedite a new registration on title BL158365 as it is now holding up the subsequent sale of the property with our purchaser threatening to pull out if it isn't completed by mid-September. Is this normal for a new registration? I didn't realise that this process took so long and had such a potential to cause financial problem for me.
    @Land_Registry sorry to be a pain but do we know how far away things are? I'm currently dealing with an irate purchaser on this title who has threatened to walk away and now I'm trying to refinance on a separate property New Title: BL158365 the lender is telling me they I can't refinance as it isn't registered to me yet? I've asked my solicitor but they've received no correspondence, is there any way you could check?

    Thanks
    @Land_Registry, sorry to chase but this seems to be the only way of contacting anyone associated with the land reg. 

    Thanks
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,150 Organisation Representative
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    GSGMSE said:
    GSGMSE said:
    GSGMSE said:
    @Land_Registry Just trying to find out how do we know if something is being expedited?  My solicitor put in a request to expedite a new registration on title BL158365 as it is now holding up the subsequent sale of the property with our purchaser threatening to pull out if it isn't completed by mid-September. Is this normal for a new registration? I didn't realise that this process took so long and had such a potential to cause financial problem for me.
    @Land_Registry sorry to be a pain but do we know how far away things are? I'm currently dealing with an irate purchaser on this title who has threatened to walk away and now I'm trying to refinance on a separate property New Title: BL158365 the lender is telling me they I can't refinance as it isn't registered to me yet? I've asked my solicitor but they've received no correspondence, is there any way you could check?

    Thanks
    @Land_Registry, sorry to chase but this seems to be the only way of contacting anyone associated with the land reg. 

    Thanks
    No need to apologise but we have very open contact channels both by phone and email. 
    The application to register a new lease under that title was completed on the 2nd September. So no hold up presumably 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • We are in the process of selling our property and have been told we will need a surrender and regrant of the lease. 

    How long is it taking in the current climate for the lease to be registered with the land registry? Is it still possible to expedite this process as our sale will possibly fall through and our mortgage offer is due to expire. 
  • Hello @Land_Registry

    I am in the process of completing the sale of a property in Manchester.  Just before completion the buyers lender raised a query regarding a historical rent charge on the property which blocked the completion

    I contacted the rent charge owner and agreed to pay a fee to redeem the rent charge to allow the sale to complete.

    The fee has been paid and a receipt has been provided confirming that all charges have now been extinguished.  

    The buyer's solicitor requested a Certificate of redemption however these are only provided when rent charges are redeemed via the government scheme

    Is the receipt from the charge owner enough to have the charges removed from the land registry?  


  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,150 Organisation Representative
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    Hello @Land_Registry

    I am in the process of completing the sale of a property in Manchester.  Just before completion the buyers lender raised a query regarding a historical rent charge on the property which blocked the completion

    I contacted the rent charge owner and agreed to pay a fee to redeem the rent charge to allow the sale to complete.

    The fee has been paid and a receipt has been provided confirming that all charges have now been extinguished.  

    The buyer's solicitor requested a Certificate of redemption however these are only provided when rent charges are redeemed via the government scheme

    Is the receipt from the charge owner enough to have the charges removed from the land registry?  

    Not usually as the receipt confirms payment rather than a full release from the rentcharge. In such cases the parties usually enter into a deed of release whereby the rent owner releases the rentcharge to the owner of the land charged. 
    I’m surprised the rentcharge owner didn’t suggest that or offer same or did they? 
    Your conveyancer/rentcharge owner should be able to help 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Hello @Land_Registry

    I am in the process of completing the sale of a property in Manchester.  Just before completion the buyers lender raised a query regarding a historical rent charge on the property which blocked the completion

    I contacted the rent charge owner and agreed to pay a fee to redeem the rent charge to allow the sale to complete.

    The fee has been paid and a receipt has been provided confirming that all charges have now been extinguished.  

    The buyer's solicitor requested a Certificate of redemption however these are only provided when rent charges are redeemed via the government scheme

    Is the receipt from the charge owner enough to have the charges removed from the land registry?  

    Not usually as the receipt confirms payment rather than a full release from the rentcharge. In such cases the parties usually enter into a deed of release whereby the rent owner releases the rentcharge to the owner of the land charged. 
    I’m surprised the rentcharge owner didn’t suggest that or offer same or did they? 
    Your conveyancer/rentcharge owner should be able to help 
    Thanks for the response I have signed a document called the deed of release which I believe also needs to be signed by rent owner.

    once the deed of release is counter signed by both parties do I need to inform land registry ? 
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,150 Organisation Representative
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    Hello @Land_Registry

    I am in the process of completing the sale of a property in Manchester.  Just before completion the buyers lender raised a query regarding a historical rent charge on the property which blocked the completion

    I contacted the rent charge owner and agreed to pay a fee to redeem the rent charge to allow the sale to complete.

    The fee has been paid and a receipt has been provided confirming that all charges have now been extinguished.  

    The buyer's solicitor requested a Certificate of redemption however these are only provided when rent charges are redeemed via the government scheme

    Is the receipt from the charge owner enough to have the charges removed from the land registry?  

    Not usually as the receipt confirms payment rather than a full release from the rentcharge. In such cases the parties usually enter into a deed of release whereby the rent owner releases the rentcharge to the owner of the land charged. 
    I’m surprised the rentcharge owner didn’t suggest that or offer same or did they? 
    Your conveyancer/rentcharge owner should be able to help 
    Thanks for the response I have signed a document called the deed of release which I believe also needs to be signed by rent owner.

    once the deed of release is counter signed by both parties do I need to inform land registry ? 
    Most certainly if you want to remove any entry referring to the rentcharge. Form AP1 plus fixed fee of £40 and the deed of release 
    https://www.gov.uk/registering-land-or-property-with-land-registry/update-or-correct-the-register
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • @Land_Registry can you tell me what this means on our contract please? I’m struggling to get my head round the whole “both leasehold & freehold” thing. We have been advised not to merge the titles as we might loose rights/benefits, but not sure what these are? 

    “ MS216841 and Assignment of Lease dated 29/07/1968 between Mr T P Hawkins(1) and Mr & Mrs R A Walters(2)
    Those mentioned or referred to in the above together with Lease dated 12/09/1946 made between Mrs Mary Teresa Weld-Bundell & Alice Mary Weld- Bundell(1) and Mr Setpimus Roston(2) with the exception of any financial charges” 
    19/7: Sale property on market
    24-25/7: 22 viewings on sale property
    24/7: Viewed purchase, probate awaited, no chain
    27/7: Offer accepted on sale (above asking price) FTBs
    28/7: Asking price offer placed on purchase
    29/7: Offer accepted on purchase
    11/8: Mortgage appointment with natwest
    12/8: Mortgage application submitted
    13/8: Valuation done on sale
    13/8: Valuation on purchase booked for 31/8
    16/8: Sale valued at offer price 
    18/8: Valuer for sale turned up early, valued at offer price
    19/8: Mortgage offer received
    26/8: Full structural survey done on sale property. Informed probate granted. 
    3/9: Survey report received, some untoward findings
    8/9: Second viewing, decision to reduce offer
    10/9: Reduced offer submitted following building quote
    11/9: Transfer form & contract signed for sale
    13/9: Sale searches back
    14/9: Reduced offer accepted
    16/9: Mortgage appointment to amend application
    17/9: All searches back on purchase
    18/9: Contract & transfer form
    signed on purchase
    20/9: Amended mortgage offer received 
    21/9: Mortgage redemption requested 
    22/9: Draft completion statements received 
    24/9: Exchanged contracts
    30/9: Proposed completion 
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