Premium diesel

mcpitman

motorguy wrote: »

Then you've missed the truth of the matter that comes up in all those debates - the detergents and additives in premium diesels will over time keep your engine cleaner and running more smoothly.

Personally I opt for adding miller's diesel additive to regular diesel. It works out a lot cheaper and Im getting the consistency each time.

I also get my diesels services at least every 10,000 miles or once a year.

I was being short because the debate has been done to death.


I am with Opt1, but do use millers, as we have agreed on in the past and all recent posts about this matter.


Mainly because standard fuel + millers is cheaper than the fancy fuels.

macman

Do you do any regular longer runs on faster roads?

Ranger8

Ignore those `placebo`digs, Shell V-Power it is the best diesel you can buy and if its your own vehicle and intend on keeping its well worth the pennies extra.
Its burns cleaner leaving less deposits around the injectors, heads and glow plugs, especially on short journey uses you`ll find the DPF regenerates less often.
And has the added bonus of cleaning the complete fuel system and a proven 5bhp more.

Ectophile

It rather depends on how old the Freelander is. My old Freelander 1 doesn't have a DPF. I do really low mileages in it (about 2500 a year), and it runs on cheap supermarket diesel, which doesn't seem to bother it in the slightest.

Ranger8

Ectophile wrote: »

It rather depends on how old the Freelander is. My old Freelander 1 doesn't have a DPF. I do really low mileages in it (about 2500 a year), and it runs on cheap supermarket diesel, which doesn't seem to bother it in the slightest.

Well aware older vehicles don`t have a DPF and some will run on just about anything but nevertheless even they need a system clean sometimes to reduce crud build up and help reduce their emissions.
So no need to always run on V-Power but a couple of tank fulls now and again just to keep things sweet is well worth the small outlay.

mcpitman

Ranger8 wrote: »

So no need to always run on V-Power but a couple of tank fulls now and again just to keep things sweet is well worth the small outlay.

The supposed benefit of these fuels is to run them consistently, not "every now and then".

Ranger8

mcpitman wrote: »

The supposed benefit of these fuels is to run them consistently, not "every now and then".

In an ideal world yes but as I said previously a couple of tanks of V-Power now and again will help clean the fuel system etc due to the increased detergents it has.

Paradigm

From Shells own website..

Helps to clean key fuel system components such as fuel injectors from the build up of performance robbing deposits. Actual effects and benefits may vary according to vehicle type, vehicle condition and driving style. No guarantees provided.

Helps to restore engine condition by helping to remove performance robbing deposits from key fuel system components such as intake valves and/or fuel injectors. Actual benefits may vary.
No guarantees provided.


Designed to help clean and protect key fuel system components such as intake valves and/or fuel injectors from the build-up of performance robbing deposits. Actual effects and benefits may vary according to vehicle type, vehicle condition and driving style. No guarantees provided.

http://www.shell.co.uk/motorist/shell-fuels/shell-v-power/shell-v-power-diesel.html

You have to read through the marketing tosh to realise that even Shell don't know if it works, if it did they would say so!

Ranger8

Paradigm wrote: »

You have to read through the marketing tosh to realise that even Shell don't know if it works, if it did they would say so!

But the only way you will find out for yourself if it does is to try it, you won`t have to remortgage your house to fund a couple of tank fulls.

n217970

Last time I checked I had a diesel engine - not a cleaning products engine.

The only time I have ever noticed a difference with fuel was when I used to fill up using the truck pump we had on site for the wagons. Now I think we are all smart enough to realise this stuff comes out of the same tank at the refinary but we are led to believe the difference in supermarket to branded fuel is the different additives it recieves when it is delivered to the fuel station.

This fuel that was deliverd to the truck pump had nothing added to it at all. Its entirely subjective and I have no evidence but the car always seemed much happier with this diesel in the tank (it's a EURO 4 diesel btw). I no longer work there and have pretty much exclusively used asda/sainsbury fuel for the last 4 years with no issues at all on a car that now has over 200k miles on the clock. If supermarket fuel encourages "crude" build up in the engines then it would have had an effect by now.