Are they taking this as notice of ownership?

Richard_Snowden

Firsty, can I say a BIG thank you to all of you who have contributed to this topic. It has really helped me understand some of the processes and course of action I should be taking (or not!).

I followed the exact guidance on the sticky thread and wrote to Premier Parking Solutions as the Keeper which is why I am surprised to have received the following reply which appears to assume that I am the driver.

Further to your emails received, regarding the above PCN.

Please know that the deadline to appeal this PCN has expired. An appeal should be made within 21 days of the date of the contravention. As we received no appeal during that period, the option of appeal is no longer available.

To clarify, your vehicle was found to have parked on site whilst displaying an photocopied permit. Photocopies of the permits are not valid, therefore a PCN was issued.

Please find attached photographic evidence to show this, as requested

I can confirm the charge was issued correctly and is now payable. Please arrange for payment to reach us within 14 days, payment can be made by Credit/Debit Card (via our website), Cheque, Postal Order or Bank Transfer – sort code 30 84 67, account number 29738668. (Please add your PCN number when paying by BACs.) Alternatively, you can leave a message with the office (0845 862 1034) and a member of our payment team will give you a call back to take payment over the telephone.

Failure to make payment could render you liable to further action, which may incur additional costs.

Yours sincerely,

Appeals Department,
Premier Parking Solutions


They also haven't answered three out of the five questions I asked which doesn't come entirely as a surprise.

I assume it's now just a case of waiting for the threatening letters right?

pappa_golf

where does it say photocopied permits are not allowed , take a photo of the signage

Richard_Snowden

I have an image but as a new member to this forum I cannot upload.

Nothing to say photocopies aren't allowed!

I believe the driver was staying at an Airbnb apartment and this was issued by the landlord.

Redx

this isnt a hosting site ! , being new is irrelevant because they dont allow uploads here

use tinypic to host pictures and add a dead link URL to it, a regular will then fix the link

Richard_Snowden

tinypic.com/r/29w1nbr/9

As requested.

KeithP

Richard_Snowden

Thanks Keith,

I assume the fact that they do not state 'photocopies aren't allowed' doesn't warrant a response!

My initial question was - Do I challenge this or simply wait for the deluge of threats?

Coupon-mad

Premier Parking Solutions are in the IPC so yep, collect the threatograms. Come back if they try court, unlikely:

http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Premier_Parking_Solutions.html

High chance of winning a court case if defended well, should they try.

The_Deep

Should they not state the amount if paid within 14 days? Also, that notice looks well over six feet off the ground, and the lettering a tad small. They are on very dodgy ground saying photographs of permits are not valid.

If they are claiming that this is a contractual charge, then v.a.t. may be applicable, does their invoice mention vat?

If they are referencing Elliott v Loake they are again on very dodgy ground.

Richard_Snowden

You can see the signage position and height in this picture (along with the kind display of tickets left on the drivers window).

i67.tinypic.com/256urmh.png

Thank you all for your advice. I will keep you posted on any developments.

Coupon-mad

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=256urmh&s=9#.WXZk84jyvIU

If that's your car, it isn't parked in the bay that has that PPS sign.

That bay seems to say 'NO PARKING - privately owned bay' (I think) so there is no offer of paying £100 in that space. No contract, nothing about permits, no consideration flowing between the driver and PPS, just a prohibition on parking on a simple sign. Are you sure the landlord does not in fact OWN that space, or lease it, and so it shouldn't be ''policed'' by scum ex-clampers? Bays could differ.

But that's all for a court hearing if the dispute goes to a claim. No action needed until then.