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  • Floss
    Floss Posts: 9,021 Forumite
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    ...I have good friends in Haverfordwest and can never understand how Wales is judged and compared to " Home Area " and found wanting ...

    I have asked Money to explain this several times, but never actually seen an answer. IMHO one chooses where one lives and adapts to that choice, not expecting others to change and not constantly comparing against previous home area. One makes a choice & gets on with it - its quite likely that people may become more friendly/accepting/accommodating if they think you actually LIKE where you live, rather than resenting the area & residents for what they are not.
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  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 23 April 2018 at 4:56PM
    This is deviating from the theme here.

    I have tried, more than once, to explain that people (quite a few people probably) are forced by circumstances not of their making to move elsewhere.

    Open to suggestions as to how to get the message over to society as a whole that it "Ain't On - to force people to move - courtesy of financial circumstances", followed by the question of "How to prevent them being forced to move".

    Could be worse - ie a low-paid person in London and gawdaloneknows how low-paid people that belong in London are supposed to be able to stay in London (when I know high-flying professionals that are finding they can't afford to these days).

    One doesnt shut down a debate as to "what can be done" if one refuses to acknowledge the debate is there on the table and does need solutions.

    Totally unrealistic imo to expect people not to compare and work out "pros and cons" all round and to try to keep the "positives" they've already been used to and avoid the downsides. That is not gainsaying any new positives from where they are.

    It's called "swings and roundabouts"/working out "pros and cons".:cool:

    In hindsight - and I have thought "Perhaps I should have started a thread back when and explained the financial circumstances and asked if anyone else could think of a "best possible solution" as to how to deal with them". Actually - I rather doubt anyone could have thought of any better options than I managed to - but at least I could quote back a thread not responded to and said "Well - what suggestions would you have had then in the circumstances? You didnt put any ideas forward......."

    Yep..I am consistent and I argue against those factors that prevent much-needed jobs coming to this area.....and creating a brain drain from here. I gather the word is "hiraeth" for how people forced out of this area feel unless/until they can come back again.
  • monnagran
    monnagran Posts: 5,284 Forumite
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    edited 23 April 2018 at 8:36PM
    Apropos of absolutely nothing at all, I've had a little song earworming me that my mother used to sing if I was grumpy as a child. I sang it to Pickle the other day and a friend who was in the room was in hysterics. OK, it could have been my singing.

    I wonder if anyone out there knows it? It goes......

    I'm miserable, so miserable,
    Down on misery farm.
    The hen won't lay
    And the c o c k won't crow.
    The lodger in the attic and the fire won't go.
    Mother's got a pimple on the tip of her nose.
    Oh, Jerusalem! And that won't go.

    Not so effective when you can't hear the tune. Has anyone else come across it?
    I believe that friends are quiet angels
    Who lift us to our feet when our wings
    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
  • Hard_Up_Hester
    Hard_Up_Hester Posts: 4,656 Forumite
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    Lovely song Monna but I've not heard it before. I've been to the laundrette and caught up with the washing, it cost me an arm and a leg, but it's done now.

    So who remembers
    Chick, chick, chick, chick chicken, lay a little egg for me,
    Chick, chick, chick, chick chicken, I want one for my tea.
    I haven't had an egg since Easter and now it's half past three.
    So chick, chick, chick, chick chicken, lay a little egg for me.
    Chin up, Titus out.
  • monnagran
    monnagran Posts: 5,284 Forumite
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    HH . Hand up here.
    I believe that friends are quiet angels
    Who lift us to our feet when our wings
    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
  • Me too I sang it to the Zebra child yesterday!
  • nursemaggie
    nursemaggie Posts: 2,608 Forumite
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    Me too. Hester.

    Thank you Polly, Floss, Monna.

    No I have never head that ditty monna

    I used to get told when I was miserable "I could ride to London on that lip."
  • camelot1001
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    I remember that song well. In fact I remember being dressed as a chick, singing and dancing (well, trying) at a dancing school show. I must have been about 5.

    I love your song monna but I really feel it needs a tune!

    I agree about feeling better having shed a few pounds (10), my clothes feel a lot better and I feel quite proud of myself. I have about the same to lose again, amazing what you can do if you put your mind to it.
  • Floss
    Floss Posts: 9,021 Forumite
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    One poem sticking in my mind for 43 years is Kipling's Smugglers poem:

    If you wake at midnight, and hear a horse's feet,!
    Don't go drawing back the blind, or looking in the street.!
    Them that ask no questions isn't told a lie.!
    Watch the wall, my darling, while the Gentlemen go by!!
    Five and twenty ponies,!
    Trotting through the dark --!
    Brandy for the Parson,!
    'Baccy for the Clerk;!
    Laces for a lady, letters for a spy,!
    And watch the wall, my darling, while the Gentlemen go by!!
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  • ancientofdays
    ancientofdays Posts: 2,913 Forumite
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    All if these songs are familiar to me too!

    Though the .miserable song, in my memory, starts off
    We're all miserable
    Oh so Miserable....

    I can't quite remember where I know it from.

    The cic chicken song is one my father used to sing to me and when my son, now almost 27, was tiny,be used to visit a local farm that had become a Children's Farm. The children could go (escorted) into the henhouse after singing the song and were given an egg to take home. Taking eggs laid elsewhere on the farm was discouraged as you couldn't tell how long they had been there.

    At Christmas, Father Christmas was there and reindeer. In a huge paddock, the reindeer, not FC.
    I was jumping to conclusions and one of them jumped back
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