The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

Cakeguts

SingleSue wrote: »

Re female products, I think I would much prefer for something to be available to these girls than nothing at all. Yes their parents may well be poor but the children should not have to suffer because of it.

And yes, I do get angered by parents like that.

I actually bought my own after the initial first few months, not because my parents wouldn't provide but because me and mum had disagreements over what I should have and what I wanted, oh and because I was an absolute madam and determined to do it my way and get my own stuff. Mum built up a huge amount of stock until she got the message which then came in handy for my sister.

I do wonder what the mothers use? They can't get them free from school. I have to admit that I think there is a lot more going on than the fact that the parents can't "afford" them. What happens at weekends and in the school holidays? None of it makes sense to me. Are the schools going to have to provide sanitary products during the 6 week summer holidays?

SingleSue

They (the mothers) are probably on long term contraception.

PasturesNew

zagubov wrote: »

I can't figure that place out. The street view shows terraced houses but not semi-detached. Is it built behind the other houses? It's an upside down house according to the floorplan when you track it down. How come there's no ground floor room photos or, like you say, outside views of the house or inside views of the garden or road?
I don't get this at all.:(

I had to go into planning and found a conversion from an industrial unit to two houses, so got the address.

From this Google streetview link, you're looking at the garage/side of 95a.

If you come away into the air to get the aerial view you'll see an industrial unit in the back garden of 95a

Streetview: https://goo.gl/maps/JFQfxh265ut

Ground floor there will just be a couple of frosted windows. There's no garden to look out onto. Downstairs are the bedrooms. The roof room is the single living room/kitchen.

PasturesNew

Cakeguts wrote: »

... during the 6 week summer holidays?

The point of this current exercise is that girls are missing school on those days. If there's no school then there's not that urgency to provide them. It is about missing education for the sake of pennies.

silvercar

PasturesNew wrote: »

The point of this current exercise is that girls are missing school on those days. If there's no school then there's not that urgency to provide them. It is about missing education for the sake of pennies.

I’m confused now. Are the girls spending all day sitting on the loo?

Most of these girls would be teenagers, why aren’t they demanding £1 a month to buy stuff themselves?

PasturesNew

silvercar wrote: »

I’m confused now. Are the girls spending all day sitting on the loo?

Most of these girls would be teenagers, why aren’t they demanding £1 a month to buy stuff themselves?

If you're improvising, with rolled up bits of tissue paper/loo roll, your chances of accidents are higher... especially if you have games.

You can't demand £1 if there's no £1 in the purse. If a parent, whether f3ckle55 or good finds they have £2 in their purse to feed the family for 2-3 days, that's 2 loaves of cheap bread and some tins of beans....

There are many reasons and situations where one might find oneself in this situation. Without the actual money, right now, to find that £1 (and, for many, access to a shop that sells them at £1).

Tesco does 10 for 23p.... no good if your nearest Tesco is 10 miles away. Asda is 16 for 55p, again, what if you're not near one. Morries 24 for 84p. Lidl 14 for 49p.

What if your only shop is a corner shop, with a limited range.

I don't know how many, on average, are needed .... but some, say, might need 8/day (or more).... while others only need 3-4. Then there's the "might be today" one .... "just in case". The requirement is probably between 20-50 for that week, depending on personal situations and flow.

Yes, these things should be pre-planned... but, for those with chaotic lifestyles, that's not an option.

It's not many that "go without".... this is a hammer to crack a nut approach.

SingleSue

Some parents put their needs before their children and/or lack planning. The priority is put on other things which then means money is not available for the essentials, I have in the past had to explain this to someone who was moaning they didn't have the money to heat their house, yet they always managed to find money to buy a bottle of vodka (or two) every week.

I unfortunately got labelled no fun/boring for it though, they were entitled to their drink night(s) according to them. Just a one bottle reduction a week would have seen their house heated adequately for their child.

PasturesNew

SingleSue wrote: »

... they were entitled to their drink night(s) according to them....

As I see it, the Internet and social media are exposing people to things that people their income bracket shouldn't be exposed to as it's "not for them"... but, as it's everywhere, and "everybody" has/does it (they believe), they see things as a priority.

Booze in the basket, smart hair cuts regularly, gel nails/extensions, new clothes, holidays, new cars, nights out with friends. These things and more are "luxuries", but they've been "normalised" by our exposure to them due to the 24/7 culture and adverts popping out everywhere.

M&S Dine in for £10, McDs/KFC grabbing food.... all because "you're busy".... you're only bl00dy busy because you're spending time watching all these things on your phone that others are buying, then busy looking into them, then busy getting them, then busy taking !!!!!!!' photos of yourself with whatever it is

In the olden days you didn't know about these things, nobody was telling you they were having them, or showing you photos perpetually of everything they're doing/buying.

They can't see they're not essentials.

The middle class lifestyle has been "normalised" and photos made accessible to the lower income people ... who then expect it.

PasturesNew

I have nothing, I expect nothing ... but what really pees me off is when those who do have wealth/things/experiences etc talk down to me as if I'm weird for not having/doing them.....

They can't comprehend I can't afford all those shiny things - and that doesn't bother me at all. What DOES irritate is being "judged" for not leading the lifestyle so many others can/do (and can't, but still do).

You're "BORING!!" if you don't live your life exactly how they do..... "come down town, there's a group of us, it'll be fun" ... "No" (meaning: what a waste of money I don't have) .... they'll spend £50-70 doing that.... and can't comprehend that if I had £50-70 I'd spend it on something tangible that I can still see/touch/use in the morning, like a rug, or a small handy gadget... right now my "thing of choice" would be a small/£20 hand push lawnmower.

I'm not boring.... just poorer/practical - and want "value" for my money .... as I've less than they appear to be splashing about.

phillw

PasturesNew wrote: »

I'm not boring.... just poorer/practical - and want "value" for my money .... as I've less than they appear to be splashing about.

It's subjective, I'd argue that people who need to spend money to enjoy themselves are inherently boring. Especially so if the money is being spent on alcohol.

It's perfectly possible to find interesting/exciting things to do that don't cost a lot or even any money.

PasturesNew wrote: »

The middle class lifestyle has been "normalised" and photos made accessible to the lower income people ... who then expect it.

Get your haircuts at the local college and avacado and kale from aldi. Middle class lifestyle sorted.