The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

Cakeguts

I am not being a nice person at the moment I am extremely angry. What am I angry about? Teenagers not being able to afford sanitary products. Why am I angry about this? It isn't the teenagers jobs to afford these products it is the job of their parents to buy them.



Why does the state have to provide free products to parents who are neglecting to provide essential items for their children? What next? Free toothpaste? You should not be entitled to free sanitary products for your child if you bought disposable nappies for any of your children.



Coming from a disfunctional family means that I can see that parents who don't care enough about their children to provide sanitary care also don't care enough about them to buy other essential items. Neglect is never only one thing.



What need to be done is for all parents of teenage girls to pay for these sanitary products to be held at the school. The schools can buy cheaper products in bulk but it is the job of the parents to pay for them.



Whoever thought this was a good idea is an idiot.

PasturesNew

Kitchen designers, these people are not.

Windows/a view appear to be an optional extra.... and it's all squeezed into a gap

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-60902445.html

PasturesNew

Cakeguts wrote: »

..... free products to parents who are neglecting to provide essential items for their children...
Whoever thought this was a good idea is an idiot.

For some reason, the powers that be - and hand-wringers - sing from the hymn sheet "They are better off with their parents".

On the other hand, there are some who are trying to provide, but didn't quite hit the mark this month... through "no fault of their own". 95% will be habitual wastes of space though.

zagubov

PasturesNew wrote: »

Kitchen designers, these people are not.

Windows/a view appear to be an optional extra.... and it's all squeezed into a gap

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-60902445.html

I can't figure that place out. The street view shows terraced houses but not semi-detached. Is it built behind the other houses? It's an upside down house according to the floorplan when you track it down. How come there's no ground floor room photos or, like you say, outside views of the house or inside views of the garden or road?
I don't get this at all.:(

silvercar

Why does the state have to provide free products to parents who are neglecting to provide essential items for their children? What next? Free toothpaste? You should not be entitled to free sanitary products for your child if you bought disposable nappies for any of your children.

I doubt the parents that are failing to provide basic essentials for their children are the ones that would be organised enough to have sufficient cloth nappies and to have the room and ability to have washing/ soaking/ sanitising/ drying routines in place. There is also the initial cost plus the cost in terms of water/ detergent/ sanitiser/ dryer costs etc

Cakeguts

PasturesNew wrote: »

For some reason, the powers that be - and hand-wringers - sing from the hymn sheet "They are better off with their parents".

On the other hand, there are some who are trying to provide, but didn't quite hit the mark this month... through "no fault of their own". 95% will be habitual wastes of space though.

Not only that but you can get washable ones these days so if they all got handed a set of those there would be less waste going to landfill. What parent can't afford to buy a set of washable ones in advance? I expect all these parents who can't "afford" these items have got washing machines?



It annoys me a lot because the more responsibility you take away from these parents the more they can get away with not providing for the children they created.



A normal parent would not leave a child in the position where they did not have these items so it is only parents who can't be bothered to "afford" the items because they don't care about the child who would do this and what you don't want to do is make it easier for those parents to care less about the child.





Some complete idiot somewhere came up with this stupid idea. Couldn't they have spent their time on something more useful?



The money wasted would be much better spent on the NHS.

Cakeguts

silvercar wrote: »

I doubt the parents that are failing to provide basic essentials for their children are the ones that would be organised enough to have sufficient cloth nappies and to have the room and ability to have washing/ soaking/ sanitising/ drying routines in place. There is also the initial cost plus the cost in terms of water/ detergent/ sanitiser/ dryer costs etc

I would argue that disposable nappies are far more expensive than supermarket own brand sanitary products.

Cakeguts

zagubov wrote: »

I can't figure that place out. The street view shows terraced houses but not semi-detached. Is it built behind the other houses? It's an upside down house according to the floorplan when you track it down. How come there's no ground floor room photos or, like you say, outside views of the house or inside views of the garden or road?
I don't get this at all.:(

The inside photos make them look like very expensive garden sheds to me. I can't see where they could put them in that road.


There are only a pair of semis. It says something about both plots in the details.

SingleSue

Re female products, I think I would much prefer for something to be available to these girls than nothing at all. Yes their parents may well be poor but the children should not have to suffer because of it.

And yes, I do get angered by parents like that.

I actually bought my own after the initial first few months, not because my parents wouldn't provide but because me and mum had disagreements over what I should have and what I wanted, oh and because I was an absolute madam and determined to do it my way and get my own stuff. Mum built up a huge amount of stock until she got the message which then came in handy for my sister.

Cakeguts

I have just looked on Morrisons website and if you buy their own brand sanitary products they cost roughly 4p each. If you take a school day of toilet visits you get 4. 1 on arrival, 1 at morning break time, 1 at lunch time and 1 at going home time so that is 4. Which comes to 16p or 20p if you fit another one in. So all the schools have to do is to get the parents to pay the 20p a day for the products. I guarantee it will reduce the waste as none of them will be used for other than they were designed for. Much cheaper than fast food at lunch time. How many children take less than 20p to school with them each day? If they have more than 20p with them that is not needed for free school meals or to buy anything else then they can afford sanitary products. After all if you can't afford 20p a day you must be on free school meals.