The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

GDB2222

Cakeguts wrote: »

Anyone else find the "try again" football advert extremely annoying? It would be much better if they had bothered to put in the third try. I find it extremely irritating. I am getting to the point where I will have to turn the sound off when it comes on. I used to do this with a Lloyds Bank advert which had a song which was accompanied by piano and the singer sang out of tune with the piano. That was also extremely annoying because you could hear from the piano which notes the singer should have been singing but didn't quite get.

I normally record commercial tv, rather than watching live, so I can skip the ads. I’ve never seen that ad!

chris_m

GDB2222 wrote: »

I normally record commercial tv, rather than watching live, so I can skip the ads. I’ve never seen that ad!

Me too - I can't remember when I last saw ANY advert, probably the last time I visited someone who doesn't do that.

Pyxis

I've not seen it either.

I'll have to google it !

Pyxis

Cakeguts wrote: »

Anyone else find the "try again" football advert extremely annoying? It would be much better if they had bothered to put in the third try. I find it extremely irritating. I am getting to the point where I will have to turn the sound off when it comes on. I used to do this with a Lloyds Bank advert which had a song which was accompanied by piano and the singer sang out of tune with the piano. That was also extremely annoying because you could hear from the piano which notes the singer should have been singing but didn't quite get.

Have just watched what I think it the one you mean.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the third try.

Do you mean it should be 'try, try and try again'?

I've just googled the poem, and there are only two tries in the line.





However, it reminds me is a song someone I know once wrote, which made me roar with laughter.
(It's more funny when it's sung, with expressions, but here it is...........)

If at first you don't succeed,
Then try and try again
And again, but then again,
If you still don't succeed,
- Just -
Give up!
:rotfl:


I just love it!
Enough of this positive thinking lark!
Let's have some good old eeyore gloom! :rotfl:

Cakeguts

Pyxis wrote: »

Have just watched what I think it the one you mean.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the third try.

Do you mean it should be 'try, try and try again'?

I've just googled the poem, and there are only two tries in the line.





However, it reminds me is a song someone I know once wrote, which made me roar with laughter.
(It's more funny when it's sung, with expressions, but here it is...........)

If at first you don't succeed,
Then try and try again
And again, but then again,
If you still don't succeed,
- Just -
Give up!
:rotfl:


I just love it!
Enough of this positive thinking lark!
Let's have some good old eeyore gloom! :rotfl:

What I was taught when young was this.

If at first you don't succeed,
try try,
try again.

Maybe they got it wrong when I first learnt it but is does scan better than what is in the advert. I have never heard it with only two trys.

Cakeguts

This is what wikipedia says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Edward_Hickson so they have got it wrong. I hate football I think this is just going to make me hate it more. Why didn't they look it up in wikipedia?

GDB2222

Thanks to Lincroft1710 for this:

"Victims in North Hertfordshire have reportedly been approached by an offender claiming to be an illegal immigrant who has won the lottery.

The offender states that they are unable to claim the lottery win due to their immigration status and asks the victim to claim it on their behalf, in return for a cut of the prize money. The offender often has an accomplice who poses as a member of the public, keen to take up the offer.

The offender then asks for a deposit from the victim, in the form of cash or high-value jewellery, to secure the deal.

Five reports have been received so far by Hertfordshire Constabulary with some victims losing up to £5,000".

Hopefully, none of the NP.

PasturesNew

"Try, try, try again" ... is probably the motto of compulsive gamblers.

Pyxis

Cakeguts wrote: »

This is what wikipedia says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Edward_Hickson so they have got it wrong. I hate football I think this is just going to make me hate it more. Why didn't they look it up in wikipedia?

Cakeguts, I think there are two things going on here.

Firstly, it would seem that the original poem, by TH Palmer, is the one the children are quoting on the advert:

"This is a lesson you should heed,
If at first you don’t succeed,
Try, try again

Then your courage should appear,
For if you will persevere,
You will conquer, never fear,
Try, try again

Once or twice, though you should fail,
If you would at last prevail,
Try, try again

If we strive, ’tis no disgrace,
Though we do not win the race,
What should you do in the case?
Try, try again

If you find your task is hard,
Time will bring you your reward,
Try, try again

All that other folks can do,
Why, with patience, should not you?
Only keep this rule in view,
Try, try again."



However, much later on, William Edward Hickson seems to have popularised it by adding a 'try', which is the version I always think of, too:
"'Tis a lesson you should heed:
Try, try, try again.
If at first you don't succeed,
Try, try, try again.[2]"


So both you and Premier League are correct.

However, their ad does quote the whole of Palmer's poem, and for me, too, it took a bit of getting used to!

Cakeguts

Pyxis wrote: »

Cakeguts, I think there are two things going on here.

Firstly, it would seem that the original poem, by TH Palmer, is the one the children are quoting on the advert:

"This is a lesson you should heed,
If at first you don’t succeed,
Try, try again

Then your courage should appear,
For if you will persevere,
You will conquer, never fear,
Try, try again

Once or twice, though you should fail,
If you would at last prevail,
Try, try again

If we strive, ’tis no disgrace,
Though we do not win the race,
What should you do in the case?
Try, try again

If you find your task is hard,
Time will bring you your reward,
Try, try again

All that other folks can do,
Why, with patience, should not you?
Only keep this rule in view,
Try, try again."



However, much later on, William Edward Hickson seems to have popularised it by adding a 'try', which is the version I always think of, too:
"'Tis a lesson you should heed:
Try, try, try again.
If at first you don't succeed,
Try, try, try again.[2]"


So both you and Premier League are correct.

However, their ad does quote the whole of Palmer's poem, and for me, too, it took a bit of getting used to!

I still hate football and I still hate that advert especially since most of the people who do the try again bit don't get the words out right. The whole thing is disjointed and annoying. I actually think that it makes the children look stupid because they can't say the thing correctly. Probably one of those adverts we should complain about because it makes the performers look silly and that isn't fair to the children in it.

Actually now I know that it is supposed to be the whole poem and it is intended to help English and Maths in school the least they could have done in the advert is to get the poem narration straight. Just awful. I didn't realise it was supposed to be a poem recital with pictures. It is really really bad. Who do I complain to about it? I complained to Lloyds bank about their awful one.