The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

SingleSue

Think I am with you now, thanks Pyxis.

We've got a combination here, as have my parents except they are more likely to fit a piano!

zagubov

Congratulations on the job, Sue!

As regards the door, I presume that in modern buildings lack of space for halls and corridors makes builders put doors at corners of rooms to save space? Is that the way things are going?

LydiaJ

GDB2222 wrote: »

Hey, that's really good mansplaining!

Except that Lydia did ask.

Yes, I did ask. And I appreciate the explanation. The only bit that made me feel "well, duh, I know that" was the definition of relative humidity, and it took me about 3 seconds to conclude that you must have put that bit in for the benefit of less scientifically inclined NP rather than for me.

zagubov wrote: »

As regards the door, I presume that in modern buildings lack of space for halls and corridors makes builders put doors at corners of rooms to save space? Is that the way things are going?

I think having doors at corners of rooms gives more flexibility with arranging furniture. As PN has said, when the door is in the middle, having two small spaces either side of the door is less useful than one large space would be if the door were in the corner.

In my house there is a doorway between the hall and the dining room. The door can't conveniently open into the hall - depending on which way it opened, it would obstruct either the archway through to the kitchen or the boiler. I happen to have put a small freezer in the space under the boiler, so it would obstruct that too. It can't conveniently open into the dining room, or it would obstruct either the stairs or the window. So there's no door, just a doorway.

The configuration of my house is a little weird because of having been extended/altered twice by previous owners. Nobody would design a house from scratch to be this way, but we've got used to it now, and it works for us.

LydiaJ

SingleSue wrote: »

Nothing posh or even high brow but it's something I know how to do, it is easy going, and it should enable me to work and avoid having to go on ESA due to less demands on my energy levels.

Cashier at an over 18 amusement arcade.

Sounds perfect - makes good use of your skills while not making too many physical demands in view of your mobility impairment.

I get the impression that while you have sacrificed your own "having a life" willingly for your boys, nevertheless it has been a frustration for you not to be able to do work that pays you an income. I am so pleased for you that you have found such a well suited job.

SingleSue wrote: »

Joe's wobble is slightly more than I thought, mad dash around to get things organised and I am off up to see him tomorrow by train for a couple of days and settle him down again...hence my brain being fried!

Oh no! Hope you're able to get him calmed down and coping again. Sending hugs.

Pyxis

zagubov wrote: »

Congratulations on the job, Sue!

As regards the door, I presume that in modern buildings lack of space for halls and corridors makes builders put doors at corners of rooms to save space? Is that the way things are going?

Well, my doors are all in the corners, and it's Victorian.
The only door that isn't in the corner did used to be, but I moved it when I changed the layout of the hall a bit, to accommodate a downstairs loo.






Sue, luckily the wobble came at a time when you can go to Joe, get things sorted, and be back in time to have a rest before starting the job! :T





Re. humidity
I've always found humidity figure confusing.:(
(I don't remember doing anything about humidity at school either! Or have the figures for humidity changed, like the figure for alcohol strength changed from degrees proof, to percentage?)

Humidity level is described in terms of percentages. But percentages of what?
To my odd mind, 100% humidity suggest you're swimming in a lake, but that obviously isn't right!

So when I see predictions for humidity levels, I don't know how humid it is going to feel, which is annoying as humidity affects me a lot in various ways.

So, what sort of percentage would indicate one of those very sticky summer days, and what percentage would indicate a nice, dry comfortable day?

And what is the percentage a percentage of?

(I did try googling it once, but didn't get that answered).

michaels

The warmer air is the more water it can hold before it condenses into cloud or falls as rain.

When air cools it can hold less water, when this happens at night the water often falls out of the air and is seen on the ground in the morning as dew or (when it is below freezing) frost.

Wen the air is saturated with water there is a tendency for it to condense on to the skin (which gives up heat from the water to the skin) and also it can not evaporate sweat of the skin (the heat required to change the state of a liquid to a gas is considerable even though the temperature doe snot change), hence the sticky feeling. Same issue applies in winter more often when the air is cooler and more often close to its maximum humidity but of course there is less likelihood of sweating and the cool air will still have a cooling effect even if there is low evaporation.

silvercar

So, what sort of percentage would indicate one of those very sticky summer days, and what percentage would indicate a nice, dry comfortable day?

I have a digital thermometer that also shows humidity. On Summer days the humidity drops below 50% and a sad face appears next to the read out. Today, a damp foggy day, it is showing 64%, but the smile hasn't appeared.

GDB2222

Pyxis wrote: »

Well, my doors are all in the corners, and it's Victorian.
The only door that isn't in the corner did used to be, but I moved it when I changed the layout of the hall a bit, to accommodate a downstairs loo.






Sue, luckily the wobble came at a time when you can go to Joe, get things sorted, and be back in time to have a rest before starting the job! :T





Re. humidity
I've always found humidity figure confusing.:(
(I don't remember doing anything about humidity at school either! Or have the figures for humidity changed, like the figure for alcohol strength changed from degrees proof, to percentage?)

Humidity level is described in terms of percentages. But percentages of what?
To my odd mind, 100% humidity suggest you're swimming in a lake, but that obviously isn't right!

So when I see predictions for humidity levels, I don't know how humid it is going to feel, which is annoying as humidity affects me a lot in various ways.

So, what sort of percentage would indicate one of those very sticky summer days, and what percentage would indicate a nice, dry comfortable day?

And what is the percentage a percentage of?

(I did try googling it once, but didn't get that answered).

When the air is saturated with water vapour (ie it can't hold any more), that's 100% humidity. If the air is half full, that's 50%, etc.

The amount of water vapour air can hold is higher when the air is warmer and lower when it gets colder. That is how we get rain. Damp warmish air comes in off the Atlantic. It hits the land and has to rise over the hills and so on. The atmosphere is colder higher up, so this warmish air becomes coldish. It can't hold as much water vapour as it cools, and the excess condenses out and falls as rain.

chris_m

GDB2222 wrote: »

The amount of water vapour air can hold is higher when the air is warmer and lower when it gets colder. That is how we get rain. Damp warmish air comes in off the Atlantic. It hits the land and has to rise over the hills and so on. The atmosphere is colder higher up, so this warmish air becomes coldish. It can't hold as much water vapour as it cools, and the excess condenses out and falls as rain.

And, boy, does it do so up here in Extremely Outer Outer Herts

Mind you, when my sister asked why I wanted to move here because it always rains, I replied that if we didn't get as much rain as we do it'd only be called The Puddle District
:rotfl:

Pyxis

michaels wrote: »

The warmer air is the more water it can hold before it condenses into cloud or falls as rain.

When air cools it can hold less water, when this happens at night the water often falls out of the air and is seen on the ground in the morning as dew or (when it is below freezing) frost.

Wen the air is saturated with water there is a tendency for it to condense on to the skin (which gives up heat from the water to the skin) and also it can not evaporate sweat of the skin (the heat required to change the state of a liquid to a gas is considerable even though the temperature doe snot change), hence the sticky feeling. Same issue applies in winter more often when the air is cooler and more often close to its maximum humidity but of course there is less likelihood of sweating and the cool air will still have a cooling effect even if there is low evaporation.

silvercar wrote: »

I have a digital thermometer that also shows humidity. On Summer days the humidity drops below 50% and a sad face appears next to the read out. Today, a damp foggy day, it is showing 64%, but the smile hasn't appeared.

GDB2222 wrote: »

When the air is saturated with water vapour (ie it can't hold any more), that's 100% humidity. If the air is half full, that's 50%, etc.

The amount of water vapour air can hold is higher when the air is warmer and lower when it gets colder. That is how we get rain. Damp warmish air comes in off the Atlantic. It hits the land and has to rise over the hills and so on. The atmosphere is colder higher up, so this warmish air becomes coldish. It can't hold as much water vapour as it cools, and the excess condenses out and falls as rain.

I'm still confused.
If humidity varies with temperature, how can I tell from the percentage whether I'm going to feel wheezy and/or sticky?

I mean, why is 50% a sad face in summer? I would have thought that meant it would feel dry and comfortable? And in contrast, why would you want 64% to warrant a smile on a damp foggy day?

I just don't understand.