Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

CKhalvashi

bobbymotors wrote: »

Ok

Because the referendum question asked was 'should we remain a member of the EU' Y/N

NOT should we remain a member of the EU or leave and return if there is a deal we don't like.

I was listening: you didn't read the question on the voting form apparently.

Should we remain a member of the SM and CU? Which agencies should we remain a member of? Should we have a free trade deal?

Were you asked the above? I wasn't.

I was asked whether we should remain a member of the EU, that is a start, it's not answering many questions though.

I believe we could be like Norway or Switzerland, and I also believe that a 52/48 vote would be unfinished business.

I also believe that in a democracy, the public has the power to change their mind or stick to the original plan, therefore it would be a good test of public opinion to have another vote.

bobbymotors

Rinoa wrote: »

In the last YouGov poll 70% wanted the government to abide by the referendum result and leave the EU.

Another referendum would there be against the wishes of the majority.

The great Briish public understand democracy better than the sneering elites on here.

quite. there won't be another vote.

Herzlos

Rinoa wrote: »

In the last YouGov poll 70% wanted the government to abide by the referendum result and leave the EU.

Another referendum would there be against the wishes of the majority.

The great Briish public understand democracy better than the sneering elites on here.

Then why not just have another referendum and cut off all the moaning?

bobbymotors

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Should we remain a member of the SM and CU? Which agencies should we remain a member of? Should we have a free trade deal?

Were you asked the above? I wasn't.

I was asked whether we should remain a member of the EU, that is a start, it's not answering many questions though.

I believe we could be like Norway or Switzerland, and I also believe that a 52/48 vote would be unfinished business.

I also believe that in a democracy, the public has the power to change their mind or stick to the original plan, therefore it would be a good test of public opinion to have another vote.

you can believe whatever you like, that is your inalienable right.

but there won't be another vote, we've already done that

cogito

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

That's an outright lie.

The money is not missing.

The part that you have omitted is that the accounts have been signed off but qualified in that the auditors have said that there were material errors. In 2015 the material error was 3.8% out of a budget of €145bn i.e. more than €5bn.

So to say that the money is not missing or that it was an outright lie is being somewhat economical with the truth.

When Tesco misstated their financial position, they were severly fined and directors resigned. Who holds the EU to account?

bobbymotors

Herzlos wrote: »

Then why not just have another referendum and cut off all the moaning?

because we had one already. you don't have to like it, but you do have to lump it.

Rusty_Shackleton

bobbymotors wrote: »

Ok

Because the referendum question asked was 'should we remain a member of the EU' Y/N

NOT should we remain a member of the EU or leave and return if there is a deal we don't like.

I was listening: you didn't read the question on the voting form apparently.

Really? So if labour had won the GE and decided that we'd leave the EU, but pay into the budget, obey the CJEU, stay in the SM and CU.... Remain in all but name as brexiters like to say, youd be happy to defend that based on it being compatible with the question on the referendum paper? You wouldnt want a referendum to see if the elecorate are happy with the outcome?

And here is where the hypocrisy of brexiters shows itself, happy with democracy as long as it serves their own purposes.

Matt_L

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Should we remain a member of the SM and CU? Which agencies should we remain a member of? Should we have a free trade deal?

Were you asked the above? I wasn't.

I was asked whether we should remain a member of the EU, that is a start, it's not answering many questions though.

I believe we could be like Norway or Switzerland, and I also believe that a 52/48 vote would be unfinished business.

I also believe that in a democracy, the public has the power to change their mind or stick to the original plan, therefore it would be a good test of public opinion to have another vote.

You obviously took little notice of the referendum debate because on questions like, do we remain members of the CU and SM, they were answered, both sides made it clear that we wouldn't. Norway or Switzerland, again the answer was no, a bespoke deal is what we want...

Rusty_Shackleton

Matt_L wrote: »

You obviously took little notice of the referendum debate because on questions like, do we remain members of the CU and SM, they were answered, both sides made it clear that we wouldn't. Norway or Switzerland, again the answer was no, a bespoke deal is what we want...

And more lies from the leave side... Lots of brexiters went on tv saying theybwerent talking about leaving the single market. Theres copies of the footage on youtube. Somebody linked to a video of daniel hannan saying it, today on this very thread!

When cameron and osborne said they'd be negative economic consequences of brexit its project fear, but when they said we'd leave the SM they were trustworthy in your eyes? Thats your position? Seriously?

CKhalvashi

Matt_L wrote: »

You obviously took little notice of the referendum debate because on questions like, do we remain members of the CU and SM, they were answered, both sides made it clear that we wouldn't. Norway or Switzerland, again the answer was no, a bespoke deal is what we want...

Wrong once again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuqgRSHBrwY

Happy now?

They're all in the SM, all accept FoM. I think you forgot that