Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Fella wrote: »

Attempting to stifle debate? No idea what you're on about.

Look at reams of previous posts with near-zero worthwhile content from that poster you quote for your answer to who stifles debate.




It would appear that Ireland's plea for 1billion euros of EU aid to help businesses affected by Brexit went unnoticed - but not by me.

Irish business leaders have called for a €1bn state aid programme to guard against Brexit disruption, in the event that the UK quits the customs union.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/12/ireland-seeks-1bn-eu-aid-protect-businesses-brexit-customs-union

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

He needs a catchphrase.

You could choose one from his anti-bureaucracy anti-EU speech here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXTvsqUphMc

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

Martin Wolf does a nice roast of the government's handling of brexit.

That's a personal perspective. Although he writes for the Pink Paper. Much that one can either take or leave.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

Martin Wolf does a nice roast of the government's handling of brexit.

https://www.ft.com/content/bf0025aa-6720-11e7-8526-7b38dcaef614

This Martin Wolf?

Why the FT’s Martin Wolf is wrong about the EU

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/another-ft-columnist-has-been-struck-by-eu-fever/

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

Not being funny but nearly all your posts start with an insult and then

"and moving on" and a link to some irrelevance or other.

Discombobulated much?
Feel free to use the "ignore" button.


FYI the above-quoted applies to not a single one of the past three posts. Presumably then these are not found to be insulting; good.
What a shame it is that the same cannot be said for your own posts when you disagree with whatever has been posted which can most frequently at best be described as condescending.

*Fact does not necessarily equal insult BTW.

No real comment on the subject of my posts I note; why is that, I wonder?
No comment on anti-EU Corbyn; no comment on Wolf other than "There are no impartial observers you know?" (no poop Sherlock!) - and yet in an earlier post you very clearly say:

ilovehouses wrote: »

An attempt to stifle debate on a debating board. Shame.

Shame indeed - and my post # 1372 proven beyond doubt.

BobQ

gfplux wrote: »

Have you noticed how Brexiters go quiet when asked what products Britain will be exporting to Britains new trade partners that will bring wealth and prosperit?

Surely not. I recall the economic guru behind the Leave campaign, Patrick Minford forecasting that UK manufacturing would be virtually wiped out (a good thing he thought) to be replaced by the service sector. So we will export services it seems and import virtually everything into an off shore tax haven rampant with poverty and immense wealth for the few.

Other visions of the future are available .......

A_Medium_Size_Jock

BobQ wrote: »

Surely not. I recall the economic guru behind the Leave campaign, Patrick Minford forecasting that UK manufacturing would be virtually wiped out (a good thing he thought) to be replaced by the service sector. So we will export services it seems and import virtually everything into an off shore tax haven rampant with poverty and immense wealth for the few.

Other visions of the future are available .......

They are indeed. Here are a few from just the past couple of days that have already been posted but which you seem to choose to ignore, but remember:
1: We have not yet left the EU.
2: Nobody has an effective crystal ball. (Despite what some remainers may profess.)

http://www.cityam.com/268266/every-way-you-turn-britains-post-brexit-future-looks-bright

http://www.cetusnews.com/news/%27We%27ll-fight-back-against-Germany%27-John-Lewis-boss-hails-Brexit-as-chance-to-beat-EU-firms.rJgA_6WzrZ.html

BobQ

Filo25 wrote: »

I think it is highly unlikely that Brexit doesn't happen, the only way I could envisage that it doesn't is that the whole Brexit process is handled so badly that public opinion shifts significantly and a second referendum is required which then delivers a very different result.

As I say highly unlikely to happen and if it is it won't be down to ignoring the will of people, it would be down to promising them the world and failing to deliver it.

Give it i6-9 months and there will be polls showing 60 -40 remain. Then the parties will re-evaluate their position. It will be very tough if there is no DUP acceptable solution to the border problem.

always_sunny

BobQ wrote: »

Give it i6-9 months and there will be polls showing 60 -40 remain. Then the parties will re-evaluate their position. It will be very tough if there is no DUP acceptable solution to the border problem.

It doesn't matter even if the poll says 100% want to remain.
There's no turning back, Brexit of some sort will need to happen, even if that's going to be a Norway style membership.

BobQ

huge benefit hhhhhhh

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

They are indeed. Here are a few from just the past couple of days that have already been posted but which you seem to choose to ignore, but remember:
1: We have not yet left the EU.
2: Nobody has an effective crystal ball. (Despite what some remainers may profess.)

http://www.cityam.com/268266/every-way-you-turn-britains-post-brexit-future-looks-bright

http://www.cetusnews.com/news/%27We%27ll-fight-back-against-Germany%27-John-Lewis-boss-hails-Brexit-as-chance-to-beat-EU-firms.rJgA_6WzrZ.html

In answer to a question of what we will trade in the future, I recall the leading economist supporting the Leave view offering a vision of a UK economy based on services and virtually no manufacturing. That was my understanding of the Remain vision.

I do not have the time to read all that is posted here so thanks for point it out.

What you call other visions seem to me to be a think tank leader seeing benefit in the EU negotiating a trade deal with Japan, hardly a vision? Not exactly based on the sort of analysis Minford did? The JL story is just one firm seeing huge benefit in UK increasing productivity. No indication how.

The question asked is what we are going to be export after Brexit to compensate for the loss of EU trade? Or you think the UK will increase trade with the EU when the tariffs begin?

The you gov poll suggests that the May vision of a hard Brexit is not shared by the nation. Personally although I voted Remain I am quite happy to leave but not at any price, we need to have a sensible trade deal or it is pointless and May is just making it up as she goes along.