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Finding marriage date of wedding in Thailand

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  • Moogles444
    Moogles444 Posts: 53 Forumite
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    74jax wrote: »
    So. Your mum wanted to leave the house to you, but actually left it to her husband, your dad.

    He remarried and left the house to his wife despite saying he had left it to you?

    Do you have the most recent will?

    No he stopped her making a will so she didn't manage to write one although I have a number of witness' who knew she had tried to this including second wife and his friends and other relatives - it was widely known.
    Yes that is correct . I believe he was starting to lose his memory and very unbalanced which other people said got worse towards the end. I have one will that states it but can't find a copy of the second will which also stated it despite his remarriage to last wife ( I even saw the will - I wish I had got a copy) but very very last will its not in there .
  • Moogles444
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    edited 13 May 2017 at 5:14PM
    So how will knowing the wedding date change your dad's will?

    Apparently it will make a difference according to solicitor

    His latest wife got pregnant a few months after they met so he married her . She's younger than me and he was an older dad. . I'm interested myself if they are legally married as well to be honest. She was seen skipping up the street laughing a week after he died which I found quite sad
  • 74jax
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    Moogles444 wrote: »
    No he stopped her making a will so she didn't manage to write one although I have a number of witness' who knew she had tried to this including second wife and his friends and other relatives - it was widely known.
    .

    I know this is hard for you but we are trying to help. Do you mean she left it to someone else (not you or your dad) and your dad took it? Did she die without a will - so leaving it intestate to your dad. It doesn't really matter what she WANTED to do, is what she DID do.
    Moogles444 wrote: »
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    I believe he was starting to lose his memory and very unbalanced which other people said got worse towards the end. I have one will that states it but can't find a copy of the second will which also stated it despite his remarriage to last wife ( I even saw the will - I wish I had got a copy) but very very last will its not in there .
    .

    We're you not visiting to know yourself if he had got worse.

    From what I understand he married his 2nd wife, wrote a will and left you something. Then remarried again and you don't know if there is another will.

    Has anyone seen a solicitor to try for probate, who arranged the funeral?
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  • 74jax
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    Moogles444 wrote: »
    Apparently it will make a difference according to solicitor

    His latest wife got pregnant a few months after they met so he married her . She's younger than me and he was an older dad. . I'm interested myself if they are legally married as well to be honest. She was seen skipping up the street laughing a week after he died which I found quite sad

    If you didn't see her doing this then ignore it, ask people not to inform you. You don't need to focus on what she doing, feeling. Look after yourself first.
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  • Moogles444
    Moogles444 Posts: 53 Forumite
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    74jax wrote: »
    I know this is hard for you but we are trying to help. Do you mean she left it to someone else (not you or your dad) and your dad took it? Did she die without a will - so leaving it intestate to your dad. It doesn't really matter what she WANTED to do, is what she DID do.

    .

    We're you not visiting to know yourself if he had got worse.

    From what I understand he married his 2nd wife, wrote a will and left you something. Then remarried again and you don't know if there is another will.

    Has anyone seen a solicitor to try for probate, who arranged the funeral?

    Sorry, I know you are honestly being so nice and helpful. This thread has helped me already as I've found a really good private investigator who is on it now.

    No, my birth mother was quite controlled by my dad and died leaving no will and trusting my dad would fulfill her dying wishes of leaving me my house that they bought together ( they had purchased tow houses as my mum had two jobs) - the second wife and many others confirm this was true from both my mother and my father.

    He married second wife and after wrote will leaving me my house I've always lived in. He did this because he had persuaded me to move from my new home that we were going to buy as he needed to move out of family main home and wanted me to live there for the rest of my life as it would be mine so he always said and promised. His second wife and him divorced and it was amicable. Meanwhile, I've lived there now 40 years with my family and kids and have done all repairs and spent literally tens of thousands on the home which I wouldn't have if i hadn't been told it was mine.

    He went to Thailand , found young wife, got pregnant straight away, so got "married' but not sure if he was free to marry. He's died and left a will and I have not been left my house as promised- been left a sentimental item only ( which I am very appreciative of but I can't lose my home). She has scored nearly £100k from marrying him plus another house he bought her in another country. She wants it all . My home holds memories of my mum and my life as well as losing any Security that I would have passed on to my children when I die as I want them .
  • maman
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    edited 13 May 2017 at 6:31PM
    The way I read it is that when your mother died your father inherited the house, his home, without a will being necessary. Subsequently your father has remarried (although you want proof) a Thai woman and bought another house with her. Meanwhile you moved into the first house (was that your dad's idea?) and spent money doing it up believing that your father would write a will leaving it to you. Now he's died, with or without a will, and his Thai wife inherits everything. Is that about right?

    I'm guessing that the solicitor you consulted thinks your best chance of successfully contesting is if you can prove they either weren't married or it was a very short marriage.

    Unfortunately all legal advice is expensive. I'm not a solicitor but surely she needs some evidence that she owns 'your' house before she can sell it.

    ETA Ignore this, we cross posted.
  • Moogles444
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    maman wrote: »
    The way I read it is that when your mother died your father inherited the house, his home, without a will being necessary. Subsequently your father has remarried (although you want proof) a Thai woman and bought another house with her. Meanwhile you moved into the first house (was that your dad's idea?) and spent money doing it up believing that your father would write a will leaving it to you. Now he's died, with or without a will, and his Thai wife inherits everything. Is that about right?

    I'm guessing that the solicitor you consulted thinks your best chance of successfully contesting is if you can prove they either weren't married or it was a very short marriage.

    Unfortunately all legal advice is expensive. I'm not a solicitor but surely she needs some evidence that she owns 'your' house before she can sell it.

    ETA Ignore this, we cross posted.

    Hi,
    Yes it was totally his idea as we were happy where we were as we knew the state of our family home - needed a lot doing . Second wife remembers this and again so do others.

    Yeah if I don't contest the will she owns it so I just can't let her take our home. I'm quite shocked how someone who has never spent a penny on something can be so unbelievably greedy and want three houses for herself which means taking one away from a whole family who have always lived there. Also she wants a huge chunk of money on top from us... she's lovely!
  • MothballsWallet
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    TonyMMM wrote: »
    That hasn't been an option for a very long time .... foreign marriages do not get registered in any way in this country.
    On a side note, that's one of the reasons why my wife and I got married in the UK rather than Russia, her visa applications are easier with a UK-issued marriage certificate.
  • Red-Squirrel_2
    Red-Squirrel_2 Posts: 4,341 Forumite
    I'm sorry, but if he wrote a will and specifically left you an item but not the house, I think it would be incredibly difficult to challenge that, whether they were married or not she was presumably named in the will?

    Another angle though, and I may be entirely wrong in this, but is there any chance you have what is called a 'beneficial interest' in the house because if your investment in it, which may entitle you to a share in its value?
  • Mojisola
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    Moogles444 wrote: »
    He married second wife and after wrote will leaving me my house I've always lived in. He did this because he had persuaded me to move from my new home that we were going to buy as he needed to move out of family main home and wanted me to live there for the rest of my life as it would be mine so he always said and promised.

    His second wife and him divorced

    He went to Thailand , found young wife, got pregnant straight away, so got "married' but not sure if he was free to marry.

    Doesn't his second wife know the date that their divorce was finalised? You should be able to narrow the third marriage down to a very small time frame as you know she was pregnant before that happened.
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