eBay vehicle scams- jack buster

d0nnyoz

hollydays wrote: »

I just don't understand why the person concerned didn't just start a thread. I don't understand , it's almost as though they don't feel that that gives them enough status or have I got that wrong?

If he wants to help people he could have simply started a warning thread himself .

He's not allowed to.
Not only was his post deleted, his whole account was deleted!

hollydays

d0nnyoz wrote: »

He's not allowed to.
Not only was his post deleted, his whole account was deleted!

But originally he could have posted but didn't.

Huskydays

d0nnyoz wrote: »

Yes, the license plates are legitimate. How do you think the scammers put any legitimacy into their practices??

So are you saying that JB know that they are maligning innocent people?
I am aware of how number plate thefts work, in fact my number plate was stolen a few years ago and it was a pain to sort out. What would have been more of a pain is if a random anon collective started posting my licence plate next to the words scam and fake, that would be a complete nightmare to sort out. My point being is that regardless of how the criminals operate, it does not justify the way in which the JB blog is representing the information.

If that's the only evidence you have!

My main "evidence" (do I need to be sworn in?) is the JB blog/fb page. How are these not good enough given that you have referenced them yourself?

But you don't know what his accuracy rate is.

No, I don't. But I know it's not 100% which, even with the best will in the world, means innocent people in the crossfire.

You cannot back up any of your statements so you are as guilty of the same practice you accuse him of.

All of my statements have been backed up. If you'd like to point out exactly where you believe they are not, I'll be happy to clarify.

Regardless, lets say his accuracy is 95%. (I have no idea what it is, but he keeps very detailed records and would know this figure). Lets say there are on average 5 scams a day on eBay each with an average value of say £4k. Over a month that's £56k a month. 95% of that is just over £53k.

[STRIKE]Just taking a moment to appreciate the irony of making up statistics immediately after criticising people for not having evidence.[/STRIKE]
OK, lets go with that statistic which would mean 13 innocent people a year who have their ads/accounts directly named as fakes/criminals and a total of at least (I say at least because many JB blog posts list more than one person's legitimate info) 260 innocent people a year who have had their information plastered on the internet next to the words 'Scam' and 'fake' for everyone to see.

I would be curious as to why these statistics, if they are kept, aren't being published? Surely a high success rate is a very good thing that would be shouted from the rooftops. I would have thought a non-profit committed to raising awareness would jump at the chance to share such information.

And you think its far better to attack that level of fraud, and the amount of people who might have parted with that level of money, because you don't like his practices.
You guys are strange!

If wanting to encourage tackling and raising awareness of scams in a safe and responsible way that doesn't harm innocent people makes us "strange", I don't want to be normal.

Edit for typos, probably more hiding in there.

forgotmyname

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Originally Posted by forgotmyname
Did i read the blog. Yes and i have taken a copy of it thanks.

Taken a copy of it?? Weird!
Are you thinking that somehow someone will just delete it, like they do on here?:D
Yes i have taken a copy and forwarded it to the company in question.

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Originally Posted by forgotmyname
It clearly says "COMPANY NAME SCAM" insinuating that company are scammers.

But you're taking the top line out of context. Read the rest of the post. It clearly states what it is.
Care to show us where it says the company name was used by scammers and the legit company were not involved?

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Originally Posted by forgotmyname
Yeah im envious that he needs to use a blog and not use his own domain etc. Reminds me of my AOL days where you got free webspace.

Foolish to think that you can only have credibility if you decide to have your own domain to do these things.
Hiding behind an anonymous blog. All the credibility of the flat earth society.

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Originally Posted by forgotmyname
Oh its on facebook so it must be true eh??

Oh!? If its on MSE it must be true then?? :rotfl:

The only thing i believe on the internet is myself. I am the one to be trusted

But, I am not pretending to not be someone.

Is there are 5 scams a day then im guessing you will only know about 0.1% of them and thats being generous.

100% success rate of what exactly? Clicking report on ebay?

theoretica

squarebanana wrote: »

What I want to write here, is that "jack" has tried numerous times to get in touch with Martin Lewis by email, alerting him to the dangers people face when buying high value items on eBay, but to this date everyone of his emails have been ignored and not answered.

Regardless of the arguments later in the thread, Martin Lewis seems more than capable of finding his own campaigns and projects.

davemorton

Just looked on the website, what a badly set out/hard to read website. It just appears to contain a load of carp, 4 mins of my life I will never get back.

d0nnyoz

forgotmyname wrote: »

But, I am not pretending to not be someone.

This is exactly where you don't get it. These scammers are criminals, and dangerous at that.
Oh, I see! The best way to expose their practices is to to do it with my real name so people (like these dangerous criminals) can track me down and get rid of me!! Of course!

forgotmyname wrote: »

Is there are 5 scams a day then im guessing you will only know about 0.1% of them and thats being generous.

My guess work was all about eBay. If there are 5 motor scams a day on Ebay, JB would get them all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-39792644

This is a problem, a very real problem.
But don't you guys worry about all those people who are losing a lot of money (because they should have all come here first for advice - ha ha!), or some half-arsed website that you all poke fun at! You're doing a great job stopping this practice. Keep up the good work guys!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/GroupEVSA

This might be a good start to learn about scamming. JB even has a little educational piece at the beginning! I'm sure that has many more views that your educational posts!