Some PIP good news

devon_guy

I thought I'd balance out all the negative threads about pip and offer some positive news. My dla was ending so i was invited to apply for pip. I filled out the forms, had a face to face earlier in the month and heard today I have been awarded standard care and enhanced mobility.
So there are some good news stories out there!

rockingbilly

devon_guy wrote: »

I thought I'd balance out all the negative threads about pip and offer some positive news. My dla was ending so i was invited to apply for pip. I filled out the forms, had a face to face earlier in the month and heard today I have been awarded standard care and enhanced mobility.
So there are some good news stories out there!

Excellent news!!!!

Did you go it alone with no outside help? What sort of evidence did you give them?

devon_guy

I did do it alone yes. I sent them all the medical evidence I had.

rockingbilly

devon_guy wrote: »

I did do it alone yes. I sent them all the medical evidence I had.

Well then you must have done an excellent job of it and I would presume an honest assessor who reviewed your claim and gave their blessing as well as a decent Decision Maker who took his job seriously all came into the mix.

Government statistics show that approx. 75% of those moving from DLA to PIP have no problems and get a decent/correct PIP award first time.

easy

Thanks very much for quoting that statistic

Government statistics show that approx. 75% of those moving from DLA to PIP have no problems and get a decent/correct PIP award first time.

So many people come on here frightened about their PIP applications - often I think stirred up by a few doom-mongers who suggest that everybody is more than likely to be turned down.
For most there is absolutely no need to get worked up about the process at all.

Kk79

Hi did you find out when they received your assessment report as I know you posted that they hadn't received it yet like mine? Thanks

rockingbilly

easy wrote: »

Thanks very much for quoting that statistic


So many people come on here frightened about their PIP applications - often I think stirred up by a few doom-mongers who suggest that everybody is more than likely to be turned down.
For most there is absolutely no need to get worked up about the process at all.

And to add a bit more to those statistics. Assuming that the 25% that fail, if they all go to appeal, approx. 65% of those appeals will succeed. That makes in total a success rate of 75% + 16.5% = 91.50%!!!!

antrobus

rockingbilly wrote: »

And to add a bit more to those statistics. Assuming that the 25% that fail, if they all go to appeal, approx. 65% of those appeals will succeed. That makes in total a success rate of 75% + 16.5% = 91.50%!!!!

False assumption.

Not all the 25% go to appeal. Those that go to appeal will also include claims from the 75%.


P.S. PIP statistics can be found here.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/personal-independence-payment-april-2013-to-january-2017

antrobus

devon_guy wrote: »

I thought I'd balance out all the negative threads about pip and offer some positive news. My dla was ending so i was invited to apply for pip. I filled out the forms, had a face to face earlier in the month and heard today I have been awarded standard care and enhanced mobility.
So there are some good news stories out there!

In my case it was a new PIP claim. Form submitted 28 November, F2F in January, awarded standard care and enhanced mobility about a fortnight later. All very straightforward.

My best guess would be, that's how it is for most people.

Tolly_T

I think the problem is that it's unpredictable. Someone can go for an assessment one year and get enhanced for both with their first assessor and Case Manager. When it comes to renewal, with exactly the same problems a different assessor and Case Manager may give zero points. There is no need to be scared of the process but it is unrealistic to say "Just be honest and you'll get the correct award" as I've read on sites before. For some conditions this will be true but for many it's partly down to luck and the assessor that you get on the day and this causes anxiety.

rockingbilly

Tolly_T wrote: »

I think the problem is that it's unpredictable. Someone can go for an assessment one year and get enhanced for both with their first assessor and Case Manager. When it comes to renewal, with exactly the same problems a different assessor and Case Manager may give zero points. There is no need to be scared of the process but it is unrealistic to say "Just be honest and you'll get the correct award" as I've read on sites before. For some conditions this will be true but for many it's partly down to luck and the assessor that you get on the day and this causes anxiety.

Absolutely

Many receive ridiculous decisions that bear no relationship to either the facts or what had previously been awarded on those same facts. Far too much is left to the assessor and their 'opinion' as well as the case managers who hardly ever agree with each other.

Experience tells me that this is the problem. Someone that has received a benefit for say 6 years or so at the same level following annual reviews and then finds that the next review completely ignores the current evidence as well as the past history and makes no award - someone somewhere needs to be held accountable for those types of situations.

The unfortunate claimant in that position is told that they can appeal if they want to.
Not everybody does appeal for many valid reasons - health - mental/physical, lack of availability of professional advice etc. The claimant then gives up believing that it is all a waste of time.

I fell into that situation and gave up for 7 years before building up the strength to fight once again.