the snap general election thread

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

?...go into it with a temporary leader and look like the chaos is total.

Now that would be a stunning move. The talent is definitely there. After watching this weeks QT I nominate multi skilled corbynista Rebecca Long-Bailey,
As.she.can.do.soundbites.in.a.staccato.voice.and. complain.about.the.tories.while.getting.louder.and.louder.

I'm sure she's a delightful person.

The serious point though is who the hell are they going to actually end up with? The unions aren't going to let any traitorous blairite back in and the members will want another deranged no-hoper.
Poor old Moby's delusion that chukka milliband will be back to take over the asylum in a few weeks ain't happening.

Moby

mrginge wrote: »

Now that would be a stunning move. The talent is definitely there. After watching this weeks QT I nominate multi skilled corbynista Rebecca Long-Bailey,
As.she.can.do.soundbites.in.a.staccato.voice.and. complain.about.the.tories.while.getting.louder.and.louder.

I'm sure she's a delightful person.

The serious point though is who the hell are they going to actually end up with? The unions aren't going to let any traitorous blairite back in and the members will want another deranged no-hoper.
Poor old Moby's delusion that chukka milliband will be back to take over the asylum in a few weeks ain't happening.

We were unelectable for 18 years....things change....events happen. .....Govmts become unpopular. I'm comforted by the end of UKIP.
Anyway apparently we won:-
http://newsthump.com/2017/05/05/labour-wins-huge-majority-in-local-elections-after-diane-abbott-counts-the-votes/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

Conrad

Students have torn down a statue of Chavez that blame him for ruining thier future with Communism. The last remaining animals in Caracas zoo have been eaten, the flour queues are enormous, children are eating maggots.

Meanwhile in London recently a Communist March took place and as the YouTube videos show, they celebrated Chavez, secure in the comfort Britain has given them

Moby

Conrad wrote: »

Students have torn down a statue of Chavez that blame him for ruining thier future with Communism. The last remaining animals in Caracas zoo have been eaten, the flour queues are enormous, children are eating maggots.

Meanwhile in London recently a Communist March took place and as the YouTube videos show, they celebrated Chavez, secure in the comfort Britain has given them

Come again?

Conrad

UKIP are responsible for returning the party back to its core conservative values, ridding it of orange book liberals like Cameron.

Labour has returned to its roots, after all Blair was the abboration, the exeption, a right leaning liberal.

Politics has come full circle.

Those that bemoan a proper centre ground option are talking nonsense, they have the Lib Dems filling that space.

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

Come again?

See the Guardian today. Socialism in Venezuala is killing and harming all but a tiny elite

Students are tearing down Chavez statues.

Corbyn did a big speach in 2013 stating we would all marvel at what Venezuela is achieving for social justice, lol

Moby

Conrad wrote: »

See the Guardian today. Socialism in Venezuala is killing and harming all but a tiny elite

Students are tearing down Chavez statues.

Corbyn did a big speach in 2013 stating we would all marvel at what Venezuela is achieving for social justice, lol

Yes I remember that. I think Corbyn is an idiot and am looking forward to the French election result tomorrow.

antrobus

Moby wrote: »

Neither Abbott or McDonnell will ever be voted leader of the Labour Party. They will fall with Corbyn. Starmer, Cooper, Chukka, Jarvis, David Miliband may come back?

Given that the membership voted in Corbyn as leader, I'm inclined to the view that they are (collectively) as dumb as bag of rocks, and will pick anybody that promotes the standard pseudo-radical BS about austerity and suchlike.:)

But who knows?

Of course, David Miliband isn't even an MP and can't come back. In fact, I don't even think he lives in the UK anymore. Isn't he in New York, doing his Thunderbirds thing?

Filo25

antrobus wrote: »

Given that the membership voted in Corbyn as leader, I'm inclined to the view that they are (collectively) as dumb as bag of rocks, and will pick anybody that promotes the standard pseudo-radical BS about austerity and suchlike.:)

But who knows?

Of course, David Miliband isn't even an MP and can't come back. In fact, I don't even think he lives in the UK anymore. Isn't he in New York, doing his Thunderbirds thing?

The polling on the membership is interesting, most of the full members who have been in the party since pre-2015 apparently do not support Corbyn, it was the explosion of membership and "supporters" who joined around the time of that leadership election who completely changed the result.

gfplux

martinsurrey wrote: »

you are missing the very lucky fact that most of us live and complain in a bubble, we have it VERY good in the UK, but we, and everyone else, likes a good moan, and we should, to drive things forward, but that doesn't diminish the fact that we are very lucky and have a very nice set up.

Having more rail lines and roads does NOT make them better. (I take your word for that but a link to prove it would be nice)