the snap general election thread

mrginge

Making a commitment to write off a load of debt that wasn't going to get paid back anyway?

How very noble of them.

Still I guess some mugs will fall for any old smoke and mirrors act.

mayonnaise

Fella wrote: »

Luckily Labour got a good kicking anyway.

Must be why Theresa had to 'shed a little tear' when the exit poll came out. Probably a tear of joy.

Fella

mayonnaise wrote: »

Must be why Theresa had to 'shed a little tear' when the exit poll came out. Probably a tear of joy.

The election was a terrible result for May personally and an utter trouncing for Corbyn & the Labour party. Which part of that don't you follow?

Any other Labour leader would have resigned by now, instead of deluding himself that he is something other than a miserable loser who cost his party an election. However Corbyn's militant followers have control of the Labour party now & won't give it up anytime soon, certainly not for reasons of decency or shame, or because a different leader might do much better next time there's an election.

Thrugelmir

cogito wrote: »

Not wrong. It was repeated ad nauseam during the election campaign that student debt was to be forgiven and doubtless many people voted for labour on the strength of that promise. A bit like many people voted for the libdumbs in 2010 on the basis that tuition fees would be abolished.

Good time to amnnounce the news as well. Now that the Universities have broken up for the summer. Gives a few months for the dust to settle.

Spidernick

Fella wrote: »

Your second paragraph appears to be gibberish & I don't actually know what you're going on about.

Selective memory, eh? Just go back a few pages on this very thread and read what you suggested versus what has actually happened, and then see who exactly was talking the 'gibberish' on here (I'll give you a clue: it wasn't me).

It would be good if people could admit when they get things wrong (I do - I thought Corbyn would lose seats overall, not gain them in the 'trouncing' he apparently received - I see you are pushing that line again - hey ho!), but a little too much to expect, I suppose.

To reiterate (I'll humour you just this once, but you know exactly what I'm talking about, however much you squirm): You have claimed that Labour are an irrelevance since the election and I have given you many examples of why you are wrong, including an admission by May herself.

That's me done with you - I'm not going to waste any more time trying to wrest your blinkers off. Enjoy the alternate reality you seem to live in.

Fella

Spidernick wrote: »

Selective memory, eh? Just go back a few pages on this very thread and read what you suggested versus what has actually happened, and then see who exactly was talking the 'gibberish' on here (I'll give you a clue: it wasn't me).

It would be good if people could admit when they get things wrong (I do - I thought Corbyn would lose seats overall, not gain them in the 'trouncing' he apparently received - I see you are pushing that line again - hey ho!), but a little too much to expect, I suppose.

To reiterate (I'll humour you just this once, but you know exactly what I'm talking about, however much you squirm): You have claimed that Labour are an irrelevance since the election and I have given you many examples of why you are wrong, including an admission by May herself.

That's me done with you - I'm not going to waste any more time trying to wrest your blinkers off. Enjoy the alternate reality you seem to live in.

More gibberish from you. If you're saying I said something then quote it so I know what you're talking about. I've consistently said Corbyn got a good hiding in the election which is FACT. If you're saying I said something else then quote it.

Fella

Electoral fraud being investigated with the suspicion being that students registered twice. Looks highly plausible given the track record that Corbyn's Momentum activists have of creating multiple accounts on social media, voting multiple times on e-petitions etc.

The Electoral Commission said 'urgent' steps were needed to reduce the scale of duplicate registrations
It warned that in some areas, the number of applications from people already on the electoral register was up by up to 70 per cent.
'Although people may lawfully be registered to vote in more than one place in certain circumstances, it is troubling that some voters appear to have admitted voting more than once at the general election, which is an offence,' it said.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4705536/Probe-launched-students-voted-TWICE-Corbyn.html

Sapphire

Fella wrote: »

Electoral fraud being investigated with the suspicion being that students registered twice. Looks highly plausible given the track record that Corbyn's Momentum activists have of creating multiple accounts on social media, voting multiple times on e-petitions etc.[/i]

I wrote to my MP about this issue. There have been rumours of illegal electoral practices for quite a while now. They need to be thoroughly investigated countrywide, and decisively stopped and prevented in the future. There should be prosecutions of those who have voted two (or more) times (this is an illegal act), and their votes should be removed from the results of the last general election, whoever they voted for.

To allow this to continue would be a serious threat to democracy. (We are not a banana republic, yet.) :cool:

cogito

Looks like it's not only the Tories who are in disarray. It appears that a large majority of Labour members oppose the party's official position on Brexit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/18/brexit-poised-rip-labour-apart-majority-party-members-opposed/

Ballard

Fella wrote: »

Electoral fraud being investigated with the suspicion being that students registered twice. Looks highly plausible given the track record that Corbyn's Momentum activists have of creating multiple accounts on social media, voting multiple times on e-petitions etc.

The Electoral Commission said 'urgent' steps were needed to reduce the scale of duplicate registrations
It warned that in some areas, the number of applications from people already on the electoral register was up by up to 70 per cent.
'Although people may lawfully be registered to vote in more than one place in certain circumstances, it is troubling that some voters appear to have admitted voting more than once at the general election, which is an offence,' it said.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4705536/Probe-launched-students-voted-TWICE-Corbyn.html

I saw a petition against people voting more than once. The evidence that started the petition was a Tweet from someone claiming to have done so. No further evidence was provided but it was deemed sufficient enough for someone to start a petition.

I looked into it slightly deeper and the original Tweeter (if that is the correct term) said that she voted twice for Corbyn in the Labour leader selection process. This is something that is apparently permitted, strange as that may seem.

Perhaps the Daily Mail have unearthed more details but my guess is that their usual journalistic prowess is to the fore and they've simply read something and filled in the gaps.

That said, if people have voted more than once in the general election then I fully agree that it needs investigating with a view to prosecute.