the snap general election thread

Joe_Horner

setmefree2 wrote: »

I've spent the last twelve months trying to understand the Brexit result - as a remainer - trying to understand the passion people seemed to feel about immigration and its consequences.

And here we are leaving the EU (a MASSIVE thing to be doing) and apparently the number one issue isn't Brexit any more - it's "public services" - !!!!!! ? Am i nuts? Or are people just really thick and fickle - sorry that's the only conclusion I can reach.

Seriously? Why the flip did we ever bother asking them their opinion in the first place if they have the attention of a gnat?

Personally, the neglected and crumbling state of our services has been a far bigger issue to me than Brexit since, well, before Brexit.

I was firmly remain but accept the result for what it is. Whatever the outcome, in 20 years time it'll have been little more than a blip (albeit a potentially very uncomfortable one) in the our history.

But I can't accept the steady dismantling of any notion of social responsibility or compassion that the Tories are visiting on us, from cutting the NHS to the bone to "fitness for work" assessments which are clearly unfit for purpose - not, incidentally, because of the medical assessors but because of the unqualified DWP staff who're empowered to make the actual decision and, all to frequently, completely ignore all the evidence except for some single random fact on which they justify genuinely cruel decisions.

I also can't accept that our "free market privatised" services are, to a large extent, extensions of other countries' nationalised industries.

That, to me, is not only an obscene perversion of the justification for selling them, its inherently unpatriotic and, frankly, bloody stupid that the French, German, Dutch and other governments are obtaining revenues that could and should be going to our own.

So, I'm afraid I can't help you with your puzzle because for me the failing services and bargain basement sell-off of national resources to foreign States have always been the issue.

setmefree2

Filo25 wrote: »

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 41% (+1)
LAB: 40% (+1)
LDEM: 8% (-)
UKIP: 2% (-3)
GRN: 2% (-)

(via @Survation / 06 - 07 Jun)

Nuts.

I'm !!!!ing baffled.

Hung parliament.

Filo25

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 46%
LAB: 33%
LDEM: 8%
UKIP: 5%

(via @BMGResearch / 06 - 07 Jun)
Last poll was Oct 2016.

setmefree2

Filo25 wrote: »

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 46%
LAB: 33%
LDEM: 8%
UKIP: 5%

(via @BMGResearch / 06 - 07 Jun)
Last poll was Oct 2016.

!!!!!! 13% con

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Survation - fieldwork completed 9pm tonight

Con 41
Labour 40

Polls are mad - 10% spread between pollsters. Never seen anything like it.

Joe_Horner

setmefree2 wrote: »

!!!!!! 13% con

Yep, and paddypower are currently offering 18/1 on Corbyn or 4/1 on may as next PM.

Which seems to me to leave a HUGE chance of "someone else" in their calculations!

Vote for May and get Bo Jo? :eek: :eek: :eek:

setmefree2

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Survation - fieldwork completed 9pm tonight

Con 41
Labour 40

Polls are mad - 10% spread between pollsters. Never seen anything like it.

More.

Nuts.

Hope the exit polls are more accurate.

masterwilde

the laughable point is May is for the hard brexit, and so many here before when contemplating the people voting brexit said we would be bankrupt if we left the banking passport union, leaving the single market, or leaving the customs union.

yet now they are hard pushing the vote for tories as they think corbyn will bankrupt the country

any one see a theme here???

May - definite hard brexit, no real known figures for manifesto

corbyn - softer brexit, figures that are out depending on who you read anywhere from 10 - 20 billion, however BOE could fund the investment bank, which in turn could fund anything the government push really.

oh how peoples opinions have changed lol

setmefree2

!!!!!! this guy went to a private prep schoo,then to a grammar and yet has EE at A level and only survived a year at a poly - he's never worked - and now he's going to run the UK - how the !!!! does that happen?

Conrad

Corbyn and his puppeteers Sturgeon and Farron do not have the aptitude or confidence for Brexit, so of course they will get a worse deal for us.