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  • Filo25
    Filo25 Posts: 2,140 Forumite
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    Final Panelbase poll

    Final GB-wide election poll
    02-07 June
    N = 3,018

    CON 44 (NC)
    LAB 36 (NC)
    LD 7 (NC)
    UKIP 5 (NC)
    GRN 2 (-1)
  • Filo25
    Filo25 Posts: 2,140 Forumite
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    They improved their position in 1987 though, that doesn't look likely this time.
  • steampowered
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    Oh - is that why he voted against every piece of terror legislation brought during his time.

    Here is a list of recent terror legislation which Theresa May voted against:

    Terrorism Act 2000: Absent from final vote.
    Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001: Voted against.
    Criminal Justice Act 2003 which allowed the police to question terrorist suspects for up to 14 days: Voted against.
    2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act: Voted against.
    ID cards: Voted against.
    Counter-terrorism Act 2008: Absent from vote.

    In the interests of consistency, will you now also criticise Theresa May for opposing almost every piece of terror legislation put forward by the last Labour government in the years following 9/11?

    And will you also criticise Theresa May for reducing the time during which terror suspects can be held for questioning from 28 days to 14 days, which happened while she was home secretary?
  • ukcarper
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    Vote Green - you might not like their policies - but it's good to stick the climate on politicians radar.
    Haven't got a green candidate.
  • lisyloo
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    Here is a list of recent terror legislation which Theresa May voted against:

    Terrorism Act 2000: Absent from final vote.
    Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001: Voted against.
    Criminal Justice Act 2003 which allowed the police to question terrorist suspects for up to 14 days: Voted against.
    2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act: Voted against.
    ID cards: Voted against.
    Counter-terrorism Act 2008: Absent from vote.

    In the interests of consistency, will you now also criticise Theresa May for opposing almost every piece of terror legislation put forward by the last Labour government in the years following 9/11?

    And will you also criticise Theresa May for reducing the time during which terror suspects can be held for questioning from 28 days to 14 days, which happened while she was home secretary?

    The devil is in the detail, so without knowing why it's not possible to comment.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    You are not alone :). I have always voted too, but on this occasion am not able to find a candidate which I feel able to support. My wife feels the same. The state of politics in this country is a mess - well that's how I view matters anyway - and I'm sure many others do too!


    Turn out might be low then ?
  • Conrad
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    Youngsters don't remember Labour strikes. They will be in for a rude awakening if the Unions get into number 10.

    Anyone know about Labours land tax? Some are saying could be £5 k pa on a £300k house, but I strongly suspect it won't be anything like this surely?
  • Here is a list of recent terror legislation which Theresa May voted against:

    Terrorism Act 2000: Absent from final vote.
    Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001: Voted against.
    Criminal Justice Act 2003 which allowed the police to question terrorist suspects for up to 14 days: Voted against.
    2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act: Voted against.
    ID cards: Voted against.
    Counter-terrorism Act 2008: Absent from vote.

    In the interests of consistency, will you now also criticise Theresa May for opposing almost every piece of terror legislation put forward by the last Labour government in the years following 9/11?

    And will you also criticise Theresa May for reducing the time during which terror suspects can be held for questioning from 28 days to 14 days, which happened while she was home secretary?
    Absent does not mean voting against or for.

    JC stood up to Terrorism?
    Er excuse me the claim you friend made was that JC had always stood up to Terrorism - I asked how e.g. by voting against every single pice of anti-terror legislation listed. No need to act like a politician and fail to answer the simple question. Unless you are fully acknowledging that JC has not stood up against terrorism?

    28 to 14 days
    - Since the detention period was raised from 14 to 28 days in 2006 only five people have been held for 26 days. Three of the five were released without charge and two were charged but then acquitted of the offences.
    - 14 days is still the longest period of pre-charge detention of any comparable democracy. In the USA the limit is two days, in Ireland it is seven, in Italy it is four and in Canada it is just one.

    I'll answer the rest for you tomorrow as I am off out...unless someone else does it for me.
    I am just thinking out loud - nothing I say should be relied upon!
    I do however reserve the right to be correct by accident.
  • Conrad
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    A caller to LBC said the Finsbury Park terror Mosque that churned out extremists was never criticised by Corbyn, apparently the constiunency MP
  • Filo25
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    Westminster voting intention:

    CON: 43% (-)
    LAB: 38% (+5)
    LDEM: 7% (-4)
    UKIP: 4% (-)
    GRN: 2% (-1)

    (via @TNS_UK / 01 - 07 Jun)
    Chgs w 30 May
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