the snap general election thread

strawberries1

kabayiri wrote: »

There is only one question :

"Where is Diane?"

(I wanted to use the 'Who shot JR' variant but I worry some people might take it too literally)

It appears she's pulled out as she's unwell.

mayonnaise wrote: »

Who will be on this Friday's QT Election time special?

It's a bit of a tough one cos there's no panel info yet and who knows what government we'll on that day?

Questions are to be submitted by Thursday.

BenjaG

Conrad wrote: »

The Germans cant fix poverty but naïve Corbyn thinks he can


A host of major German charities have called for a "rigorous change of course" in the government's tax and finance policies to fight growing poverty, in a major new report released Thursday.


"Growth is what the economy produces, but for years now that hasn't reached the poor population," said Erika Biehn, deputy chairwoman of one of the charities that presented the report in Berlin.

Drastic reduction in poverty are almost impossible to achieve, because most definitions of poverty use relative income to measure who is in poverty. The key UK government measures take 60 per cent of median income as the poverty line. So unless we try to abolish differences in income, poverty levels will only change marginally, whatever Corbyn says.

Enterprise_1701C

strawberries1 wrote: »

If you're invited to ask a question on BBC Question Time Election special this Friday, what question will you put to the panel?

My thoughts are around national security and what a successful Brexit means.

When are they going to start asking that people who come into this country actually make an attempt to learn English. After all, if you want to live in a country you should accept that you shold take part in society in that country.

Rinoa

On Betfair you can get 28/1 on a Labour overall majority.

Puts the polls into perspective.

Filo25

Rinoa wrote: »

On Betfair you can get 28/1 on a Labour overall majority.

Puts the polls into perspective.

Without a monumental recovery in Scotland an overall majority for Labour is a pipedream.

Their only hope is to squeeze the Tories down to about 310 or lower, at which stage the Tories obvious lack of partners to govern with starts to become a problem (you are really only looking at DUP and UUP as reliable allies in the Commons)

System

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

When are they going to start asking that people who come into this country actually make an attempt to learn English. After all, if you want to live in a country you should accept that you shold take part in society in that country.

Just like our expats!

Enterprise_1701C

Joeskeppi wrote: »

Just like our expats!

If we go to another country that does not speak English then we have to pay for translation etc . Our NHS alone has to spend £59K a day on translation.

OK, there are some expat communities that have grown in other countries, but they normally include things like schools, doctors etc. It normally involves people that have no intention of staying in that country long term.

Of course the difference is that a lot of people in other countries speak English, whatever the desire of Tusk.

If I go to a foreign country I make sure I can get by in the local language but often get spoken to in English.

What i am talking about is the people that come here and will not allow their families to speak English for fear of them integrating into the community. I know for a fact that Nepalese men of the older generation will not allow the women to speak English. This means they have no life of their own outside the Nepalese community.

wotsthat

Rinoa wrote: »

On Betfair you can get 28/1 on a Labour overall majority.

Puts the polls into perspective.

You can only get 18/1 now.

Has someone let Boris out of his box?

steampowered

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

If we go to another country that does not speak English then we have to pay for translation etc.

My job in business has required me to live in several different countries - and I haven't been able to speak the local language in any of them; nor could most of the expat community.

As a general rule the English speaking expat business community in places like the Middle East, Singapore, Indonesia, Hong Kong or Japan do not speak the local language.

And there are plenty of English people who have second homes or have retired in France or Spain that don't speak the local language.

If I go to a foreign country I make sure I can get by in the local language but often get spoken to in English.

I guess you don't travel very much then. It is beyond nonsense to suggest that you need to be able to "get by" in the local language before going on holiday somewhere.

kabayiri

2 questions :

a) Can Labour achieve a majority without reviving their vote in the traditional Northern Labour heartlands?

b) if a) = No then re the voters who left Labour in 2015, and those who voted Brexit for immigration reasons, why should they return to Labour?

Corbyn is London-centric...always has been.