the snap general election thread

sevenhills

kabayiri wrote: »

Part of that would be Diane Abbots job and she is frankly a liability.

He picked a poor support team.

I get the impression that many of the old big hitters are taking a back seat, his choice was limited.

kinger101

setmefree2 wrote: »

The debate moved on after the dog's breakfast of the Tory manifesto. However, I was wondering what people's opinion's are on TM's Social Care policy 10 days on......?

I had no problem with Theresa May's original proposal. There are three options;

(a) the state provides care for those who don't have the means;
(b) everyone is entitled to care, and it's paid for out of general taxation.
(c) everyone is entitled to everything, and it's paid for by borrowing more and more money, or some magic calculations from Diane Abbott's abacus.

I'm happy with (a) or (b). Nobody was being made homeless. Children shouldn't expect to inherit their parents' wealth.

wotsthat

Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »

When May does listen and make a change requested by the voices of many she is castigated, the recent tax fiasco being one example.
Can't win really in the eyes of some; was it ever thus.
We would all like to get everything right first time around. Sadly, life ain't like that. Is or was yours? You never made mistakes? (A generalised "you" btw not specifically the OP.)

There have been a number of cases where the May government have 'listened' and made changes to what they initially thought was a good idea.

It's a worry that they keep thinking bad ideas are good ideas and they only back their policies if there aren't squeals of displeasure.

Fella

fun4everyone wrote: »

All Corbyn has to do is concentrate on the savage cuts to the police/nhs and he is on to a winner.

Yes that would be a winner among morons who can't do very basic sums.

Everybody who can do sums understands that under Corbyn the country would be bankrupt within a year & there would be much less money to spend on the NHS or the police.

Herzlos

Fella wrote: »

Everybody who can do sums understands that under Corbyn the country would be bankrupt within a year & there would be much less money to spend on the NHS or the police.

How does that differ to what the Tories are doing to the NHS and police?

LHW99

I get the impression that many of the old big hitters are taking a back seat, his choice was limited.

Can't say I blame them!

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

There have been a number of cases where the May government have 'listened' and made changes to what they initially thought was a good idea.

It's a worry that they keep thinking bad ideas are good ideas and they only back their policies if there aren't squeals of displeasure.

And the winner of the most miserable poster of the year 2017, for the fifteen year running goes to...

Moby

Corbyn has to wheel out the same five spokespeople each time and regrettably one of those is Diane Abbott. Labour are fighting this election with their feet and hands tied behind their back. Shows how utter crap the tories are. They have all that cash and the press barons behind them and they are still cocking it up but she is going to take on the EU in a few weeks....can't wait!

Fella

Herzlos wrote: »

How does that differ to what the Tories are doing to the NHS and police?

Easy question. It would be about a thousand times worse.

Something a lot of people (obviously including you) don't seem to get at all. You seem to believe in a world where the nice Mr Corbyn promises everything without the faintest way of paying for any of it.

kabayiri

Fella wrote: »

Easy question. It would be about a thousand times worse.

Something a lot of people (obviously including you) don't seem to get at all. You seem to believe in a world where the nice Mr Corbyn promises everything without the faintest way of paying for any of it.

I really can't see how he could acquire the space and time to carry out his ambitious plans.

These plans would easily be labelled as risky and ambitious in normal times, but against a backdrop of Brexit and Trump and rising Middle East tensions they look poorly timed as well.