Banks that offer gender neutral titles

Gers

Mojisola wrote: »

I don't understand - if you always use Ms you can't be defined by your marital status.

Mr - adult male.
Ms - adult female.

Let me help -

I said that I hate being defined by my marital status when men aren't.

What I didn't say was I am currently defined by my marital status.

So, no need for any more advice. I am happy in my skin.

teddysmum

Years ago , boys and young men were referred to as Master, thus making them equivalent to Miss, though they became Mr just by virtue of age.

xylophone

I said that I hate being defined by my marital status when men aren't.

If men were "defined by their marital status" you'd be happy to be defined by yours?

Perhaps married men could be "mistrems" with abbreviation Mrm.........:D

or "misterms" but that seems ambiguous...:rotfl:

Shakin_Steve

Banks can do as they like. From me...if you're a female you're getting called 'love' and if you're a male, you're getting called 'mate'. Works for me....mate.:D

robatwork

Something of a tangent but I don't enjoy the question "Do you mind if I call you Rob?" when on the phone or online chat.

Because the answer isn't a clear yes or no. It's a sort of tired resignation that I don't really mind as there are more important things in life to worry about but, frankly, I don't really like your company's policy that you even bother to ask this question. Just don't waste our time asking and call me Mr Atwork - that can't be wrong. If that bothers me I will say to you "call me Rob please". I'd come across as a bit up myself if I said that I don't want you to be so familiar, and as a repressed Englishman I wouldn't dream of offending you by insisting you use my surname so in the interests of getting on with things, just call me Rob if your oh-so-on-point focus groups have told you that's the way to make your millennial customers feel more connected.

Perhaps next time I'll say that.

Shakin_Steve

robatwork wrote: »

Something of a tangent but I don't enjoy the question "Do you mind if I call you Rob?" when on the phone or online chat.

Because the answer isn't a clear yes or no. It's a sort of tired resignation that I don't really mind as there are more important things in life to worry about but, frankly, I don't really like your company's policy that you even bother to ask this question. Just don't waste our time asking and call me Mr Atwork - that can't be wrong. If that bothers me I will say to you "call me Rob please". I'd come across as a bit up myself if I said that I don't want you to be so familiar, and as a repressed Englishman I wouldn't dream of offending you by insisting you use my surname so in the interests of getting on with things, just call me Rob if your oh-so-on-point focus groups have told you that's the way to make your millennial customers feel more connected.

Perhaps next time I'll say that.

Ermmmm.........nah.:D

Gers

xylophone wrote: »

If men were "defined by their marital status" you'd be happy to be defined by yours?

Perhaps married men could be "mistrems" with abbreviation Mrm.........:D

or "misterms" but that seems ambiguous...:rotfl:

Ah, a wholly different and interesting question. Your offered solutions are definitely thought provoking. :beer:

PixelPound

Shakin_Steve wrote: »

Banks can do as they like. From me...if you're a female you're getting called 'love' and if you're a male, you're getting called 'mate'. Works for me....mate.:D

As a middle aged male with a beard, I've been called "love" and "beautiful" this week, so don't think they are gender specific.

The problem with all these titles, is will they achieve what is expected, due to society's preconceptions. If you are dealing with someone and ask their name and they say Mre J Bloggs or Mx J Bloggs, will you take in your stride as if they had said Mr J Bloggs or Miss J Bloggs. Will people using it, be using it as a chip on their shoulder and take offence if it causes you to pause .

System

teddysmum wrote: »

How would the former teacher, above like to be addressed ? (Probably not 'Smith' or 'Michael' , but likely the sexist 'Sir')

Firstname. I totally disagree with the 'respect' argument. I've seen children completely disrespect some teachers who are referred to as 'sir' or 'mr/miss/ms' and completely respect support staff like ICT technicians who are referred to by their firstname. Respect isn't dependent on a title.

Shakin_Steve

nic_c wrote: »

As a middle aged male with a beard, I've been called "love" and "beautiful" this week, so don't think they are gender specific.

The problem with all these titles, is will they achieve what is expected, due to society's preconceptions. If you are dealing with someone and ask their name and they say Mre J Bloggs or Mx J Bloggs, will you take in your stride as if they had said Mr J Bloggs or Miss J Bloggs. Will people using it, be using it as a chip on their shoulder and take offence if it causes you to pause .

And....will you be bothered whether they take offence or not? I certainly won't be fussed.