Has Brexit now been priced-in

setmefree2

HornetSaver wrote: »

So, regardless of people's political opinions on whether Brexit is going to be an improvement, a detriment, or make little difference in people's day to day lives. To what extent can it be said that Brexit has now been priced in?

Imho a velvet Brexit has been priced in....

A_Medium_Size_Jock

You know what I said just a few posts up?
Theresa May's spokesman says today:

"These are draft guidelines that were issued ... We will wait and see what is agreed by the 27 (EU countries), " the spokesman told reporters.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-gibraltar-may-idUKKBN17514F

Thrugelmir

Filo25 wrote: »

Spain are part of the EU, we aren't, so I don't see that its surprising the EU should include this in their negotiating points.

Let's be clear. The EU hasn't included it. Spain has. With the exit of the UK, Spain moves up the pecking order. This is only the first of many demands one suspects. Don't forget that the Canadian trade deal was held up due to the a regional Belgium government. One imagines like WW1. This could up in stalemate in the trenches.

padington

Tromking wrote: »

Not really.
The EU were always going to back Spain's politicking on Gibraltar. I see Gib's foreign minister has just compared Tusk to a cuckcolded husband.
Well done EU you've just upset the most pro-EU territory in Europe.:)

Rubbish, why then was the cabinet so taken a back and no mention of Gibraltar in the A50 letter?

Absolute nonsense.

padington

Tromking wrote: »

I think you'll find that the UK will not being throwing the Gilbraltarians under any EU buses anytime soon. You never know they might be doling out licences to fish in British waters to Spanish fishermen from 'The Rock' in two years time.
Very early days in this process, but I can't help but think that if every national interest is catered for in this negotiation then your view on the possibility of a meaningful deal getting done may be spot on.

Why do you think that every single EU country is going to vote yes to this deal? The very idea is ludicrous. The Brexit fools have failed before they started. You just need one country to be incentivised enough by Russia for example to vote no and its not happening.

Mark my words, this will be a very hard Brexit.

Tromking

padington wrote: »

Why do you think that every single EU country is going to vote yes to this deal? The very idea is ludicrous. The Brexit fools have failed before they started. You just need one country to be incentivised enough by Russia for example to vote no and its not happening.

Mark my words, this will be a very hard Brexit.

I don't think I did say that every constituent EU nation would vote yes, and if it is a ludicrous idea then it was one dreamt up in Brussels when they insisted on dealing with the UK with one voice.
I think the UK Govt. has been preparing the country for the idea of a 'no deal' for a few months now, most Brexiteers that I know would be content with a short sharp clean Brexit as two years of remainiac bleating on the minutiae of the negotiations would be too much to bear.

padington

Tromking wrote: »

I don't think I did say that every constituent EU nation would vote yes, and if it is a ludicrous idea then it was one dreamt up in Brussels when they insisted on dealing with the UK with one voice.
I think the UK Govt. has been preparing the country for the idea of a 'no deal' for a few months now, most Brexiteers that I know would be content with a short sharp clean Brexit as two years of remainiac bleating on the minutiae of the negotiations would be too much to bear.

'One voice' means we negotiate with one person whilst every country also still enjoys a final veto. Know the facts before you spout your nonsense.

padington

Tromking wrote: »

Not really.
The EU were always going to back Spain's politicking on Gibraltar. I see Gib's foreign minister has just compared Tusk to a cuckcolded husband.
Well done EU you've just upset the most pro-EU territory in Europe.:)

Not according to the Evening standard editorial today which said no one that should have done, saw it coming.

Get your facts right.

Tromking

padington wrote: »

'One voice' means we negotiate with one person whilst every country also still enjoys a final veto. Know the facts before you spout your nonsense.

padington wrote: »

Not according to the Evening standard editorial today which said no one that should have done, saw it coming.

Get your facts right.

You seem angry Padders.
I'm not sure what point your trying to make, you accused of me thinking that every EU nation would vote Yes to the deal, I don't think I've ever written that and then accuse me of not knowing the way EU negotiations will work, when I do.
Finally, when did a newspaper editorial (opinion piece) become stone cold facts?

padington

Tromking wrote: »

You seem angry Padders.
I'm not sure what point your trying to make, you accused of me thinking that every EU nation would vote Yes to the deal, I don't think I've ever written that and then accuse me of not knowing the way EU negotiations will work, when I do.
Finally, when did a newspaper editorial (opinion piece) become stone cold facts?

If you think no deal will be a good thing for this country you have no idea at all. You clearly seem to be suggesting so, so I can clearly assume you know so little on this subject it's laughable.