Manager refusing to alter Sunday working Hours

stuart30

sangie595 wrote: »

She has been given the opportunity to choose how she makes up her hours. If she no longer wants to work her contractual hours, then she can resign and find another job. I'm sorry, but this is three days a week, so she is already part time, and now she wants the employer to arrange their business and all other employees around the times she would like to work. It may be her legal right to opt out of Sunday working that she had agreed to - but nobody said she could opt out of Saturday working.

I do not see what your wife thinks it's unfair about this. She does not wish to work Sunday. She's been given an option. Either every other Sunday, or every other Saturday. She's not wanting to work Sunday, so she works Saturday. Simples.

Or do you mean that she doesn't want to work Sunday and the employer is supposed to organise their business around her so as not to inconvenience her? I'm afraid employment doesn't work like that.

Ok let me say this again..the law and no that not my made up "i dont want to work law"...the law states employees can stop working sundays,she has exercised that right.

She isnt available to work saturdays as im working and she has to look after children,so its not a case of cant be botherd,its a case of cant.

So yes im afraid to say the law states a employer does have to rearrange there business requirements to accommodate her request as its all in Black and white.

I didnt make it...some clever soul in the Government would have...;)

IAmWales

stuart30 wrote: »

Regards violence..just venting my frustration,however im kind of old fashioned,when someone blatantly takes the !!!! out of my wifes good nature i get quite annoyed,she doesnt feel able to refuse requests as she is easily intimidated.

Yes, I can quite imagine she is.

Poor woman.

stuart30

Mr.Generous wrote: »

You can indeed opt of of Sunday working, having taken a job agreeing to work them or having contracted to work them. However ... Your (or your wife's if your fighting her battles) employer DOES NOT have to offer you the hours at another time. In other words you can drop the day and not work it. They CAN offer you the hours on another day but they don't have to. If the chinless wonder manager has a staff budget to stick to and needs someone to work on the Sunday he can use your wife's hours for someone else, either as a contract change or by taking someone on. When I was a retail manager I had to do this once when 3 staff opted out of Sundays, We ran the shop floor with about 6 staff on a Sunday so impossible to do anything else. I never had a staff members partner come in and try and chin me, but I worked in Liverpool, Manchester, Blackpool, Warrington, Chester, Ellesmere Port, St Helens, Bolton, Stockport etc. All tough northern towns. Shoplifters tried to chin me at least weekly. Toughens you up I found, fighting so much.

He is sadly a metrosexual type bloke..he had a back bone and said it how it is id respect him for being Honest as thats all we can ask or expect.

To lie through his teeth to get her to work 3 months of sundays and then have the contract changed afterwards is pure cowardness in my eyes.

The point is she DOESNT want nor need the hours on another shift...should have explained that earlier but red mist descended.

All she has asked and had agreed was she would drop the sunday shift...simple as that,now its you cant drop it and if you want to then you have to change other shifts and still include a sunday.:eek:

stuart30

IAmWales wrote: »

Yes, I can quite imagine she is.

Poor woman.

Difference is i have the up most respect for her...as said im old fashioned.

Sadly helpful people can very easily be taken advantage of...something i will not stand for.

iammumtoone

What does her contract say does it state 3 days?

You are correct she does not have to work Sundays but she is still under contract to work 3 days. The employer has said that the other day has to be Saturday.

As far as I can see the employer hasn't done anything wrong, they have stopped the Sunday working as requested the fact your wife cannot do the alternate day needed is not the employers problem. In fact they have been more than fair by offering another option (once in every two Sundays)

They haven't refused to alter Sunday working hours as per your title, you wife has refused to work the days now required.

sangie595

stuart30 wrote: »

Ok let me say this again..the law and no that not my made up "i dont want to work law"...the law states employees can stop working sundays,she has exercised that right.

She isnt available to work saturdays as im working and she has to look after children,so its not a case of cant be botherd,its a case of cant.

So yes im afraid to say the law states a employer does have to rearrange there business requirements to accommodate her request as its all in Black and white.

I didnt make it...some clever soul in the Government would have...;)

No it does not say that. It says that she cannot be forced to work on a Sunday. She CAN be forced to work any other day of the week. She has contractual hours to work and the EMPLOYER decides when those are. Not her. If she does not wish to be bound by her contract any longer, then that is called a resignation. Which sounds best all round. *comment removed by Forum Team - Please try to keep the forums a friendly place*

xapprenticex

ok ok, imo she should look for other work, if she stops Sundays she may find she loses her job for 'other' reasons.

id imagine she got the job after agreeing to do sundays?

stuart30

xapprenticex wrote: »

ok ok, imo she should look for other work, if she stops Sundays she may find she loses her job for 'other' reasons.

id imagine she got the job after agreeing to do sundays?

No they asked her to cover Sundays 3 years after starting.:)

xapprenticex

dunno what to say besides get her to look for another job, sure working weekends sux but she has 4 days off but thats besides the point. but i think if she just stops doing sundays they will manage her out. im off to bed now, good luck with this.

stuart30

sangie595 wrote: »

No it does not say that. It says that she cannot be forced to work on a Sunday. She CAN be forced to work any other day of the week. She has contractual hours to work and the EMPLOYER decides when those are. Not her. If she does not wish to be bound by her contract any longer, then that is called a resignation. Which sounds best all round. Working must get in the way of cleaning your house, cooking your meals and polishing your club.

Again i"ll say it in case i didnt make it clear...they agreed she could stopped Sundays and cut her hours down.

They or should i say "he" has changed the deal..simple,they agreed and 3 months later he has decided to no longer honour it.

My goodness i wish she did...you have the impression she is a lacky in our house,hmmm you should really ask her and dont be offend when she bursts out laughing.

Honestly your assumptions are wonderful they have actually made me smile.:rotfl: