ebay, paypal and Distance Selling

soolin

stephenSSSSF wrote: »

Of course, none of this entire discussion has anything to do with my original point about consumer rights, the DSR and ebay.
However it was described is irrelevent given that he is a business, operating on ebay and as such, subject to the DSR.

So much for supporting the rights of consumers.

You have had plenty of answers pertaining to your original question, unfortunately they haven't told you what you want to hear.

As for your response to me..unless I have got horribly muddled which I agree is entirely possible you appear to be arguing against yourself. You say that the auction did not specifically state this was not a standard size, yet the measurements were stated clearly...so i can't quite see how you feel misled? Surely the actual measurements were all you needed to see what size it was

stephenSSSSF

No, thats clearly not what I meant. Anyone of average intelligence could see the point I was making. Read the posts.
I think I am being wilfuly misunderstood by people with no interest in the rights of anyone apart from sellers here.

Shame.

stephenSSSSF

soolin wrote: »

You have had plenty of answers pertaining to your original question, unfortunately they haven't told you what you want to hear.

Where????? Please show me?

nickyt

If you read through I think your find post number 5 gave you lots of information.

frivolous_fay

Agree with nickyt... although I'm starting to think this is a wind-up now.

fwhorn

1. size is there

2. people with average intelligence would of known that 1.75 inches is not full size, if they didnt they would of got a tape measure.

3. people of average intelligence or above would of contacted the seller if point 2 became to hard.

4. The dsr is there for people to use when they have been ripped off and not got what was on sale. Not for people who dont understand what they are buying.

6. what happened to point 5?

So to sum up, I will type this slowly as I know you can't read fast. The seller has no case to answer, you have got what is advertised. If you didn't understand what he was selling, then you have no chance of actually solving the your cube.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Please do not respond as I have answered what you have asked. If you don't like the answer tough, go and look on ebay and see if there is a life for sale.

Labman_2

stephenSSSSF wrote: »

Well there is a standard size. And, the fact is that noone really knows off the top of their head what the dimensions of a standard Rubik cube are.
This is precisely my point, being studiously ignored by most people here....

So no-one knows off the top of their head the size of a standard Rubik cube? Are you including the seller in that statement? Perhaps they didn't & included the dimensions so buyers could judge for themselves if the item was what they wanted? Caveat emptor comes to mind.

nickyt

When doing a search for a orginal rubix cube it says
3x3 is the size.

stephenSSSSF

Well, where do I begin? There are only so many times you can make the same point and have it ignored.

Ok, for what its worth I'll repeat this again, I know that the size is listed inches. Repeat. I know that the size is listed in inches. That is not up for debate. You do not have to keep repeating this. The point I have been trying to make, as I'm sure you know by now, is that this does not necessarily mean that most people would know that it is not a normal-sized cube especially given that it is listed as a "brand new rubik cube".

Labman, I'm not sure if you are joking.

fwhorn,
1. Yes, for the two hundredth time, the size is there. In Inches. It is not, repeat not, listed as not being a full-size cube.

2. "people with average intelligence would of known that 1.75 inches is not full size". Really? Not from what most people have written above.

3. People of average intelligence would have made the same mistake, as acknowledged by the people above who said that they did not know the size off the top of their heads. Of course they didn't.

4. "The dsr is there for people to use when they have been ripped off and not got what was on sale. Not for people who dont understand what they are buying.".
Nonsense, that is exactly why it is there, check it out.

"So to sum up, I will type this slowly as I know you can't read fast. "
Evidently, you can't read at all, for the above reasons.


The other point I was trying to make is that if, as everyone seems to want to, you choose to argue until the cows come home about the fact that it was listed "IN INCHES", none of this has anything to do with the buyers right to a refund from a non-private seller on ebay provided the request for the refund has been met in the first 7 days.

Nickyt, post 5 does not answer the question I was asking about ebay and Paypal's relationship to the DSR.
This is how it works, as I understand it. Ebay acknowledges that the DSR must be upheld by its business sellers however Paypal will not take action on a buyers behalf in this case. I think this a worthy point to make, thats all.

fwhorn

2. "people with average intelligence would of known that 1.75 inches is not full size". Really? Not from what most people have written above.


So you are saying that you are below average intelligence because you thought it was full size? I dont think people who have posted knew what size a rubiks was but they all new it wasnt full size. I cant tell you what the size of rubiks is but I know that its not 1.75 inches.

Just for future ref dont go bragging to the girls, they are going to be very dissapointed and they may take you to trading standards for false claims:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


Let us no how you get on with the dsr, give them a laugh for the weekend.