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  • TheNickster
    TheNickster Posts: 4,062 Forumite
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    edited 4 February 2017 at 11:57AM
    If it always takes a struggle to walk 100 yards then you can say 'reliably' - ie he can say "I can reliable struggle to walk. The OP never used the word 'reliably' in the original post.

    That is why the other factors come in to play:- safely, in a timely maner, repeatedly etc.
    ETA- For example if you struggle to do something then it is probably not safe to do it. end of ETA.

    That is why you can infer little from just using the word 'reliably. It is the context that is important so that any ambiguity can be ironed out.

    For those who think that the OP was only trying to get a MOTABILITY car please note he is struggling to walk 100 yardsand he said 'mobility', not 'highest element' mobility component of PIP.

    And as I have said before in the context of perverse and inconsistent assessments the temptation to not explicitly state something when not asked is understandable if perhaps unwise.

    This thread getting increasingly acrimonious and is in danger of being deleted.
    Do not be fooled into believing that this society cannot be made fairer because hard work isn't necessarily all it takes.
    There are those on MSE DT who know the price of everything but the value of little.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    That is correct - the road is a public place ( no car park) - and not "bookable"
    You seem to have no problem being imaginative with solutions to avoid going there than to find some to do so. No possibility to drive to a car park closer to the office and then take a taxi from there to drop you off right in front of it?
  • w06
    w06 Posts: 917 Forumite
    in response to the original question, the assessment, or mine at least, asked both general and specific questions about work and social life and how these are accessed.

    Lying by omission is still lying

    For many of us no accessible parking space means giving up and going home, because no matter how hard we struggle we aren't going to be able to get there, hence some of the hackles rising at the suggestion that struggling 100 yards equates to not being able to walk 50
  • 50Twuncle
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    FBaby wrote: »
    You seem to have no problem being imaginative with solutions to avoid going there than to find some to do so. No possibility to drive to a car park closer to the office and then take a taxi from there to drop you off right in front of it?
    Go back to your daytime job - sitting under a bridge waiting for the Billy Goats Gruff to cross.!!
  • TheNickster
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    edited 4 February 2017 at 1:12PM
    w06 wrote: »
    in response to the original question, the assessment, or mine at least, asked both general and specific questions about work and social life and how these are accessed.

    Lying by omission is still lying

    For many of us no accessible parking space means giving up and going home, because no matter how hard we struggle we aren't going to be able to get there, hence some of the hackles rising at the suggestion that struggling 100 yards equates to not being able to walk 50

    OK the OP should not have considered deliberately not saying he works part time if not asked but for the rest:-

    No one has suggested that to struggle 100 yards equates to only being able to walk 50, only that it might do. I see no reason for rising hackles over that.. It depends what is meant by 'struggle' and we do not have enough information to know that. That is what the medical evidence will determine.

    It is wrong to suggest that the OP was just trying to get a motability car.
    Some might be suspicious of that but to categorically state (as someone did) that that is what they are doing is unjusified (defamation even). Anyway to get a motability car the cut off point is 20m not 50m.

    For the DWP it all depends on whether regularly walking 100 yards will result results in a deteriorating condition and if there is a significant danger of falling. Are you suggesting that the OP should delay applying until he is permanently in a wheelchair?
    Do not be fooled into believing that this society cannot be made fairer because hard work isn't necessarily all it takes.
    There are those on MSE DT who know the price of everything but the value of little.
  • w06
    w06 Posts: 917 Forumite
    no, I'm suggesting there should be nothing to fear by being honest
  • TheNickster
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    edited 4 February 2017 at 1:23PM
    w06 wrote: »
    no, I'm suggesting there should be nothing to fear by being honest

    Your assessment might have been fair but:-

    https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2017/02/03/dwp-apology-error-double-amputees-fit-work-assessment/

    and that is by no means the only example of inconsistent and perverse decisions.
    Do not be fooled into believing that this society cannot be made fairer because hard work isn't necessarily all it takes.
    There are those on MSE DT who know the price of everything but the value of little.
  • 50Twuncle
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    It is wrong to suggest that the OP was just trying to get a motability car.
    Some might be suspicious of that but to categorically state (as someone did) that that is what they are doing is unjusified (defamation even). Anyway to get a motability car the cut off point is 20m not 50m.
    Also - I have not even mentioned Motability or High rate mobility claims !!
    I was only enquiring about claiming "Mobility"
    I have been claiming DLA care allowance for 12+ years !!
  • tomtom256
    tomtom256 Posts: 2,249 Forumite
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    50Twuncle wrote: »
    Also - I have not even mentioned Motability or High rate mobility claims !!
    I was only enquiring about claiming "Mobility"
    I have been claiming DLA care allowance for 12+ years !!

    Seeing your previous posts on how far you can walk etc with regards the previous parking issues at your place of work, you'll be lucky to get PIP.
  • tomtom256 wrote: »
    Seeing your previous posts on how far you can walk etc with regards the previous parking issues at your place of work, you'll be lucky to get PIP.
    You don't know that. He may get standard pip. It's whether he can walk reapeatdly, in a timely manner and realiably way. It's up to the pip assessor and his medical evidence.
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