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  • cbrown372 wrote: »
    says the person who has had more user names on here than I've had hot dinners and was claiming some £600 odd a week.

    You wouldn't know what the words "lets be honest" mean.
    Am I missing something?
  • TheNickster
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    edited 14 February 2017 at 11:28AM
    In my opinion a max of £6000 up to £16000 if under retirement age and £10000 and no upper limit if over retirement age. This falls in line with both IS, ESA & JSA means tested for the under 65's and Pension Credit for those who are 65+

    If you want to bring it into line with something else it is more logical (as it is about care needs) to make it the same as social care means test where in England it is £14,250 to £23.250. Or bring the social care limit down to £6,000 to £16,000 if below retirement age and £10,000 if above retirement age.

    I am not necessarilly advocating that but that seems more logical if PIP is to be means tested.
    Do not be fooled into believing that this society cannot be made fairer because hard work isn't necessarily all it takes.
    There are those on MSE DT who know the price of everything but the value of little.
  • If you want to bring it into line with something else it is more logical (as it is about care needs) to make it the same as social care means test where in England it is £14,250 to £23.250. Or bring the social care limit down to £6,000 to £16,000 if below retirement age and £10,000 if above retirement age.

    I am not necessarilly advocating that but that seems more logical if PIP is to be means tested.
    I have no argument with that, but with PIP you are dealing with the DWP and they have to comply with the Welfare Budget.
    When looking at care that is down to the local authorities and the Health Budget.
    If you made the case that the Welfare Budget should allow this increase you only have to think for a few seconds what the impact would be on the rest of the welfare benefits. Effectively the 'rich' pensioners would become 'richer' and those on other benefits would have to take a cut.
  • TheNickster
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    edited 14 February 2017 at 12:58PM
    I have no argument with that, but with PIP you are dealing with the DWP and they have to comply with the Welfare Budget.
    When looking at care that is down to the local authorities and the Health Budget.
    If you made the case that the Welfare Budget should allow this increase you only have to think for a few seconds what the impact would be on the rest of the welfare benefits. Effectively the 'rich' pensioners would become 'richer' and those on other benefits would have to take a cut.

    I gave 2 options if my second option was introduced (ie reducing the social care limits to £16,0000 or £10,000) you only have to think for a few seconds that there would be a positive impact on the welfare budget as opposed to the negative one of the first option.

    It depends on the priorities of the government. As this would impact primarily pensioners and as pensioners are more likely than younger people to vote then I cannot see the government introducing the second option.

    I advocate neither option.
    Do not be fooled into believing that this society cannot be made fairer because hard work isn't necessarily all it takes.
    There are those on MSE DT who know the price of everything but the value of little.
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