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Do I tell DWP ?

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  • tomtom256
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    wellynever wrote: »
    I can walk 100 yards 3 times a week reliably yet get the HRM,

    You know very little about PIP.

    But did you tell PIP this?
  • tomtom256 wrote: »
    But did you tell PIP this?

    Yes I did.
  • poppy12345
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    wellynever wrote: »
    Yes I did.
    I find that hard to believe...
  • FBaby wrote: »
    Unbelievable! So you can walk twice 100 yards 3 times a week, reliably, but you want them to believe that you can't do that to the point of requesting a home visit or going with a wheelchair when you don't actually need to?

    You are asking if they can find out about your work because you know that if they do, they could indeed refute what you are telling them?
    Another of your typical, nasty condensing replies. As you don't see how the poster walks, it's wrong to make a snap judgement. He may struggle to walk 100m and be in pain for the rest of the day by walking that far.

    As he only walks it 3 days a week, he may struggle to walk the rest of the week.

    You clearly know nothing about PIP.
  • 50Twuncle
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    edited 4 February 2017 at 9:54AM
    Poppy12345 & FBaby clearly have a problem with disability !
    Are they actually disabled themselves ?
  • wellynever
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    edited 3 February 2017 at 9:24AM
    poppy12345 wrote: »
    I find that hard to believe...

    This is where people never seem to understand,

    ok lets say I have a job 3 days a week I drive there and have to be there for 8.30am I also have to walk 100 yards in my mind I've made it to work, but to walk the 100 yards it would take me over a hour have to keep stopping and be in a lot of pain but in in my mind I've walked 100 yards and got to work on time,

    But In the minds of the assessor and the DWP I'm not able to walk 100 yards.

    See it's easy for people to judge.

    In my mind I can do lots of things but my doctor the assessor and DWP know I'm unable to do the things.

    Edit to add, In my mind I made it to work reliably and on time but for some strange reason the assessor and the DWP didn't take my mind into consideration funny old world we live in.
  • poppy12345
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    50Twuncle wrote: »
    Poppy12345 clearly has a problem with disability !
    Is she/he actually disabled her/him self ?
    I don't have a problem with disability. Yes i'm disabled myself. What i do have a problem with is those that need it can't get it and those that don't need it get it.... If someone has to lie to get something they clearly don't need it imo.
  • poppy12345 wrote: »
    I find that hard to believe...
    So do I
    I doubt very much that if a claimant tells both the assessor and the DWP that they have no problem with walking at least 100 metres that they would be awarded Enhanced Mobility.
    The limit is 20 metres
  • 50Twuncle
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    I didn't mention the word Enhanced !!
  • TheNickster
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    edited 3 February 2017 at 10:21AM
    poppy12345 wrote: »
    I don't have a problem with disability. Yes i'm disabled myself. What i do have a problem with is those that need it can't get it and those that don't need it get it.... If someone has to lie to get something they clearly don't need it imo.

    In this case there was no lie. It would only be a lie if (s)he is specifically asked if they are working and they said they were not when in fact they were. (S)he has not even applied yet.

    If what they were trying to get was difficult to get because those that decide whether they get it or not has a reputation for making arbitrary and perverse decisions then it is understandable(though perhaps unwise) that an application may be tempted not to disclose what they have not been specifically asked to disclose.

    Even if they did lie what should be the overriding factor is whether the medical evidence shows that doing the activity that has been lied about will have an ongoing detrimental effect on their condition.

    On a separate point making the assessment interview room more than 20m from the waiting room smacks of entrapment and just because an applicant can walk it once or twice is no reason for an automatic rejection and then put through the additional stress of an appeal. Also there is no consistency between assessment centres - some are more than 20metres and some less - another post code lottery.

    Of course accurate rejection of those applicants who are not entitled is important but so are those rejected unfairly.
    Do not be fooled into believing that this society cannot be made fairer because hard work isn't necessarily all it takes.
    There are those on MSE DT who know the price of everything but the value of little.
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