Electric cars

Martyn1981

Potentially a 370mile (320mile) SUV from Ford.

Ford Claims 370 Mile Range For Electric SUV, Brings PHEV Power To Explorer & Cargo Vans

Herzlos

That explorer is nice, though I'm not sure I need 450bhp for the school run!


That said, the range extended 8-seater minibus is going to be a game changer for airport shuttles - 30 miles on pure electric, 300 with the 1.0 motor helping. Since they likely spend a lot of time waiting somewhere, that means they'll rarely need to use any fuel.

DoaM

Ectophile wrote: »

There's already a petrol station near me with a charging point. It's not right next to the petrol pumps, to the risks from sparks is minimal.

I actually drove past such a filling station at the weekend, so I've answered my own question. The fuel pumps were at one side of the building, and the charging points (2 of them) were at the other side. I think that certainly gives sufficient creepage and clearance distance.

DoaM

Herzlos wrote: »

Since they likely spend a lot of time waiting somewhere, that means they'll rarely need to use any fuel.

Many of the airport shuttle buses I've encountered are on the go pretty much constantly. (e.g. between the terminal building and off-site parking). They tend not to hang around stationary for any great length of time. Operators won't invest in an over-stock of buses to allow them to remain idle.

Herzlos

Sorry, maybe shuttle wasn't the best term. Airport taxis and the buses run by hotels likely spend a lot of time at both ends waiting on people. I was thinking particularly the ones serving central London where the EV part will mean no congestion/EZ charges.



The in-airport shuttles are on the go fairly often, but I dare say that if they have access to chargers at each stop, they may be able to get away with slightly longer delays. They'd probably be better on a fully EV approach though, giving them more like 300 miles range than 30.

Martyn1981

Tesla Q1 figures look a bit poor (to me), possibly due to low Jan sales (US car sales in Jan are very low), and the amount of cars now in transit due to international sales (shipments).

Tesla Deliveries Up 110% In Q1 2019 vs. Q1 2018

But I had to laugh, the Bloomberg TM3 tracker this time had to massively revise down its estimate which yesterday was claiming 236,787 and 6,195p/w, and today is 221,517 and 5,344p/w. Bloomberg entered Mch with an estimate of 5,741p/w, and revised that figure each day up to the 6,195p/w figure. I'm not entirely sure what they are really tracking and why they need to change their figures every quarter end so much.

AdrianC

Makes sense that the introduction of international VIN ranges has caused some confusion - and the estimates have tended towards the upper end of the range of likely outcomes.

What that means is just under a 2% increase on last quarter's Model 3 output. Looks like just over 5k cars/week is all that's currently sustainable. We've been at that level for damn near a year now, and they've stopped even mentioning 10k cars/week.

But did you notice the Model S/X production figure? 14,150 compared to 25,161 in Q4, a 44% drop... That takes production for the range as a whole for the quarter down from 86,555 to 77,100, an 11% drop.

"Reaffirming" ~360k vehicles for the year as a whole means 90k/quarter, so no real increase on Q4/18, just Model 3 taking up the slack if Model S/X stays depressed.

onomatopoeia99

So, are there any electric cars that can use the car's battery to power the house via an inverter (perhaps the one that I already have for the solar panels) when plugged in at home yet?

Because when there are, I'll consider getting one to supplement the (already ordered) Tesla Powerwall I'm going to have at home.

NigeWick

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

are there any electric cars that can use the car's battery to power the house?

Ovo are going to start a trial with Nissan and their Chademo system. I expect other systems to join in some time.

almillar

So, are there any electric cars that can use the car's battery to power the house via an inverter (perhaps the one that I already have for the solar panels) when plugged in at home yet?

I mightn't be the most up to date on this, but AFAIK there are plenty of trials by plenty of manufacturers, but nothing really available for sale. I think the new Leaf does advertise some capability, but there's nothing to plug it into to give back to the house. 2-3 days worth of home electricity in there! The closest you can buy, off the shelf, would be Zappi, solar panels and a wall mounted battery, which would prioritise using solar power to power your house, charge the wall battery, and charge your car, and do its best to avoid using grid power.