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  • Martyn1981
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    edited 25 November 2018 at 3:05PM
    AdrianC wrote: »
    You'll forgive me for not watching 24 minutes of youtuber waffle.

    No need to apologise, I never for one second expected you to consider the evidence/information before commenting and posting more negativity / FUD.

    BTW, this 'youtuber' has appeared on US television lots of times as the counter voice in discussions with Tesla shorts. His arguments were very simple, look at what Tesla is actually doing/achieving, not what the FUD is claiming.
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  • Martyn1981
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    BTW, his video's own subtitle only says "could" scale to 22m/$2bn -

    As usual you are out by a vast margin, approx 10 fold on both claims.
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  • AdrianC
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    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    As usual you are out by a vast margin, approx 10 fold on both claims.
    Or it was a simple transposition typo - 2m/$22bn.
  • Martyn1981
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    Just a quickie from Chris Goodall's weekly Carbon Commentary newsletter:
    6, Electric car sales. VW said it expected to sell more than 4 million electric vehicles a year by 2028. This represents about 40% of the total number of cars the VW group currently produces each year. Over 2m of these EVS will be purchased in China, according to the company. VW remains committed to the target of $100/kWh battery packs by 2025 or before. This brings the battery price of 200 mile/300 km range down to around $5,000.

    Great news though I'd have thought 40% of cars by 2028 seems a bit of a low target.

    Still, $100/kWh battery packs from VW will be a nice step towards maturity in the short/medium term. Though if they are behind Tesla's $100 timeline, I'm still not sure how they'll be producing cars as good as Tesla but at half the cost by 2020 as they claimed.

    Oh well, forward movement is progress and that's all good news.
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  • AdrianC
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    I don't remember seeing this mentioned, but it's two months since it opened...

    The government is soon opening a consultation over green-background plates (no mention of front, rear or both) for "green" vehicles...
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/green-number-plates-for-clean-vehicles

    Quite how that'll sit alongside the numpties who never remove the blue-tinted protective plastic over new normal ones, I'm not sure.
  • Car_54
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    I don't remember seeing this mentioned, but it's two months since it opened...

    The government is soon opening a consultation over green-background plates (no mention of front, rear or both) for "green" vehicles...


    Not only does it mention front or rear, it adds "or both sides". Note the use of "or", which implies instead of front or rear.


    I must admit I thought it was an April Fool spoof at first. Anything which attracts drivers attention to number plates, instead of what's happening on the road, is a daft idea.
  • buglawton
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    Once EVs become more mainstream, I'm wondering how the AA/RAC will deal with those 'im stranded, I've unexpectedly run out of fuel' calls. Bring along a can of 'leccy?
  • Car_54
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    buglawton wrote: »
    Once EVs become more mainstream, I'm wondering how the AA/RAC will deal with those 'im stranded, I've unexpectedly run out of fuel' calls. Bring along a can of 'leccy?


    I remember similar discussions when Clive Sinclair (the Elon Musk of his day) announced the C5.
  • ElefantEd
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    Well at the moment they would have to use a flatbed truck to take the vehicle to a charging point or home. I suppose they could have specialist rescue vehicles that could generate electricity to recharge a car. Or even tow it up a hill repeatedly to let regen braking do the recharging!
  • Gloomendoom
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    buglawton wrote: »
    Once EVs become more mainstream, I'm wondering how the AA/RAC will deal with those 'im stranded, I've unexpectedly run out of fuel' calls. Bring along a can of 'leccy?

    That's effectively what they do...

    hi_evmobilecharge_trucktech.jpg

    https://newsroom.aaa.com/2011/07/ev-charging-statio/
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