Walked out - work going to delay my pay

Takeaway_Addict

CJYP wrote: »

Today i walked out of my work. Ive been there nearly 2 years. They wanted to train me in something that is covered by my job description, but Ive never done. Its very stressful and I don't work very well under time pressure. I have told them this but they said 'everyone is now being trained in this'. I know this is a load of rubbish and they are just training the ones that wont say nothing in disagreement.
Anyway today just wasnt my day, i ended up walking out. I got a phone call from my supervisor saying she has informed the manager(who doesnt work weekends) of todays events and that I need to return to work today to hand in my letter to terminate my employment. She also stated that if I dont do this by the end of today, my pay might be delayed, or wrong. We are due to be paid this coming Thursday.
Are they just trying to scare me into handing in my termination letter or is this true? I cant afford to have my pay delayed let alone wrong!
I didnt actually state that i was quitting, just that i was walking out.
Im now very stressed about what to do. I would have liked to end on good terms with me working my notice period but I cannot go back now as I feel embarrassed.
Can they delay my pay if i dont hand my termination letter in by end of the day today? Considering my manager isnt actually in until Monday anyway? Im shocked they havent even offered me a meeting to discuss the events, theyve just asked for this letter.
Any help will be appreciated.

You messed the employer about...don't be surprised if they mess you about in return...

soolin

CJYP wrote: »

I refused training just as many of my colleagues have. Some get away with not doing it because they kick up a fuss. This is what annoyed me enough to walk out.
As for your comment regarding being an employee for less than 2 years, 2 years is a long time to work for this place in my job role. They have a very high turn over of staff because of situations like this. Unfairly treated.

The comment about up to 2 years is because - speaking basically., your rights change once you have worked there for 2 years. As it stands you are in a precarious situation especially if you need a job in order to finance a mortgage.

I also wonder if the way in which you walked out, or perhaps what you said at the time was enough for them to consider that you were walking out from the job, IE resigning? If they thought you were resigning then they need that in writing so they can start to process your final pay, holidays owing etc, and not delay payroll .

Obviously we don't know exactly what occurred but it appears you have 2 choices, either formally resign in writing as they require , or go in grovel , apologise and negotiate on doing the training they require.

leslieknope

did you ever stop and think maybe the extra training would be beneficial for you in the long run? whether that's that you would have been seen by management to be a better worker for taking the new opportunity and not kicking up a fuss like others, or because you have learnt a new skill that will benefit you in another job.

others have said you're looking to buy a home and have debts. in that situation why are you throwing away a job that you've said is fairly well paid for what it is?

it sounds like the way you left led them to believe you were resigning so like the poster above, either resign in the proper terms in hopes you will be in the next run of payroll and get your final wages, or ask for a meeting to discuss the issue and accept any disciplinary action that might occur from simply walking out. or you can just ignore it and not expect a reference or any sympathy should your wages be messed up.

jobbingmusician

I really would strongly recommend, as others have, that you go in on Monday and apologise for leaving abruptly on Friday. (I assume you felt sick at some point during this debacle. I hope I am not encouraging you to lie if you tell them that you felt unwell, and at least imply that you left suddenly as a result of this.)

It's irrelevant whether or not they are training everyone in this new procedure (although I agree it is very annoying to be lied to) as long as they are not choosing people on the basis of any discriminatory reason. Jobs change - I'm afraid that with less than 2 years behind you, you need to adapt or get out. And others in this thread have pointed out the disadvantages of getting out without proper planning - no JSA, no decent reference etc etc....

CJYP

leslieknope wrote: »

did you ever stop and think maybe the extra training would be beneficial for you in the long run? whether that's that you would have been seen by management to be a better worker for taking the new opportunity and not kicking up a fuss like others, or because you have learnt a new skill that will benefit you in another job.

others have said you're looking to buy a home and have debts. in that situation why are you throwing away a job that you've said is fairly well paid for what it is?

it sounds like the way you left led them to believe you were resigning so like the poster above, either resign in the proper terms in hopes you will be in the next run of payroll and get your final wages, or ask for a meeting to discuss the issue and accept any disciplinary action that might occur from simply walking out. or you can just ignore it and not expect a reference or any sympathy should your wages be messed up.

After sitting at home dwelling on it all day, I do feel stupid for acting like that but at the time I felt it unfair as I know other members have staff turn down training and nothing is mentioned.
I am due to be in work tomorrow but as said previously my manager isnt in until Monday.
Do I call up tomorrow and explain to my supervisors that I want a meeting to discuss this or do I wait to speak to my manager on Monday? I do intend on at least grovelling and staying put at this job until I can find something else.
Im also annoyed they havent even offered me a meeting to discuss this or even find out why i acted out of character.

soolin

CJYP wrote: »

After sitting at home dwelling on it all day, I do feel stupid for acting like that but at the time I felt it unfair as I know other members have staff turn down training and nothing is mentioned.
I am due to be in work tomorrow but as said previously my manager isnt in until Monday.
Do I call up tomorrow and explain to my supervisors that I want a meeting to discuss this or do I wait to speak to my manager on Monday? I do intend on at least grovelling and staying put at this job until I can find something else.
Im also annoyed they havent even offered me a meeting to discuss this or even find out why i acted out of character.

If they thought you were resigning then they might not feel it appropriate to offer you a meeting. Look at it from their point of view, you decline the training, walk out (resign?) you have less than 2 years service, what purpose would there be in expecting you to go through the hassle of meetings and explanations?

Takeaway_Addict

jobbingmusician wrote: »

I really would strongly recommend, as others have, that you go in on Monday and apologise for leaving abruptly on Friday. (I assume you felt sick at some point during this debacle. I hope I am not encouraging you to lie if you tell them that you felt unwell, and at least imply that you left suddenly as a result of this.)

It's irrelevant whether or not they are training everyone in this new procedure (although I agree it is very annoying to be lied to) as long as they are not choosing people on the basis of any discriminatory reason. Jobs change - I'm afraid that with less than 2 years behind you, you need to adapt or get out. And others in this thread have pointed out the disadvantages of getting out without proper planning - no JSA, no decent reference etc etc....

Terrible advice considering the supervisor has asked for the resignation on writing...saying you're sick won't cut it

[Deleted User]

I hate writing this but could it be they wanted someone out? Strikes me as odd that those who kicked up a fuss have job still. But then if they really wanted rid I'm sure they could have given you a pad and pen there and then so I'm hopeful for you OP. I did wonder if payroll was 'advanced' say up to day before due hence warning over delay.

A lot of companies are starting not to do exit interviews now and from friends in retail it's quite common to get 'A certificate of Employment' (nearly spat my tea out when I heard this phrase!) rather then do a reference.

Hope it works out as 20 odd months does seem rather a shame to lose out on and very different to someone in their first 5 days of a new job. I always remember the day I can across that MD with a cob on! so it happens to the best of us I'd say definately.

CJYP

soolin wrote: »

If they thought you were resigning then they might not feel it appropriate to offer you a meeting. Look at it from their point of view, you decline the training, walk out (resign?) you have less than 2 years service, what purpose would there be in expecting you to go through the hassle of meetings and explanations?

Obviously Im wrong to think I meant more to the team.
Can I ask why the 2 year mark is such a big thing? Do i have more rights after 2 years?

General_Grant

CJYP wrote: »

Obviously Im wrong to think I meant more to the team.
Can I ask why the 2 year mark is such a big thing? Do i have more rights after 2 years?

Yes, two years' employment gives you employment rights like not being dismissed unfairly ("unfair dismissal" is a technical term).

The request for you to submit a resignation in writing is probably because your contract requires that resignations are written and therefore just saying you were going is not a resignation. However, of course, without the two year tenure you could still be dismissed by them with whatever notice they need to give according to your contract (that would be at least one week).

Whenever you do need to resign from a job, follow the employer's requirements and give appropriate notice. You would also need to give at least one week's notice in respect of your current employment - just walking out without giving notice should not be an option.